(June 10, 2016 at 10:40 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: You've been here this long and are still resorting to argument from Bible verse? That verse is one of the clearest evidences of the Bible's fallibility to an atheist, because we know it isn't true.
It's telling that the biggest problem with God is explaining why he's hiding.
You mean, if we assume your claim is true, why wouldn't we think your conclusion is true? I hope you don't think that was a good question. In any case, if true, our 'fallen nature' wouldn't be our fault, it would be due to the choices of two humans and God. It's like blaming a blind person for tripping over obstacles when you're the one who blinded her.
Your first point is circular:
YOU: Why does God hide himself?
ME: reference the Bible
YOU: That does not count, we don't believe the Bible because it has claims of the supernatural. [repeat]
In your second point you are objecting to why we are in a fallen state, not objecting to "why wouldn't it be reasonable to conclude (as does the Bible) that our cognitive abilities have been impaired and our built-in selfcenteredness (pride) prevents us from seeing evidence that conflicts with the selfcenteredness (a kind of noetic effect)."
