(June 10, 2016 at 5:37 pm)SteveII Wrote:(June 10, 2016 at 3:21 pm)Constable Dorfl Wrote: If god and free will exist then that god is not omnipotent as it doesn't have power over all things, suffering existing or not.
God choice not to violate free will in no way comes close to undercutting the concept of omnipotence. That would be like you saying because I choose not to lift my arm I don't have power over my body.
Yes it does, free will limits his power over those with free will:
1) God wants me to punch my nose.
2) I don't want to
3) God tries to make me punch my nose
4) I use my free will to override god's want
This has two conclusions
5a) I don't punch my nose
5b) God forces me to punch my nose overriding my free will
As you can see the two conclusions show that eithr god is not all powerful or my free will is illusory (as god will remove it if I go against his will). Quad Erat Demonstrandum
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