(June 11, 2016 at 1:25 pm)Esquilax Wrote:(June 10, 2016 at 5:43 pm)SteveII Wrote: Because free will is valued more highly than just about anything else (with the exception of knowledge of God). For one, without free will, we would not have love.
... And you don't have an issue squaring this statement with the fact that god stops caring for our free will the moment we die within your theology because...?
If you can't have love without free will, then your capacity for love becomes immediately curtailed upon entry into the afterlife, where god just chooses for you where you're going and what you'll do once you get there.
For that matter, how do you know any of what you just said is true?
And... wait. If knowledge of god is valued more highly than free will, and your position is that god allows incalculable suffering to occur in order to preserve free will because of that value, then... you don't see a problem there? You've got something you've just acknowledged is more valuable than free will, but this thing is specifically being withheld from humanity in order to preserve free will, and the motivation behind that, to you, is that free will has a high value, but you've just told us that the thing being withheld in order to protect free will (which is being protected because of its value) is more valuable than the thing it's being withheld to protect!
Your argument has a clear logical contradiction, Steve; it cannot be true.
Regarding your first question, why do you think free will stops at death? I believe that we will still have free will but when faced with the glory of God, and given the knowledge of all truths, the human mind would not be able to contemplate disobedience.
I did make a contradictory statement and thank you for pointing it out and giving me a chance to clarify. As I mentioned in a earlier post, Christians believe the purpose of life is not happiness but rather knowledge of God and as such has the highest value. With the advent of Christ, this knowledge of God expanded to include the relationship offered through salvation. What I should have said in my post was that freely arriving at that knowledge is extremely important to God.
How do I know any of this is true? I don't know any of it is true. I believe it to be true.