(April 26, 2011 at 3:12 am)ruhollah Wrote: Are secular laws barbaric?
- Machiavellian-like laws that allowed approximately 80 man, women, children to be imprisoned and then burned alive. Little babies coughing blood and their mothers couldn't do anything.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege
This was an instance where a cult had illegally obtained weapons and then fiercely resisted when authorities attempted to enforce the law. If they were "imprisoned" (which is a bullshit claim) they were imprisoned by their own doing. And what does "babies coughing up blood" have to do with anything? The mothers could have easily walked out of the compound with their sick babies and received medical attention. The fact that they didn't is because they either chose to remain in the compound or they were forced by their wacko cult leader to stay. Either way, it is their own fault. Could the government have handled this situation better? Maybe so. But you can't compare Waco (a one-time circumstance which was heavily investigated afterwards) with atrocities like "Honor Killings".
Quote:- Machiavellian-like laws that allowed a million innocent Iraqi civilians killed thanks to a little "white" lie from bad intel sources.
And here we go with blaming the US for every Iraqi death. Never mind that the VAST majority of Iraqi deaths resulted from OTHER IRAQIS killing each other! Also, you are talking about what happens in a war and comparing it to laws that govern a populace ALL THE TIME. FAIL!
Quote:- Pedophiles-like laws that allows authorities to grope children under the age 10
Okay, here we have a child being searched at an airport. This hardly qualifies as a "pedophile groping". And I must say that I find these types of things to be idiotic. This kid should have been waved through security, but in our PC world we can't "profile", so EVERYONE gets the same treatment. This means your 80 year old grandmother has her knitting needles confiscated. But let's not forget why these searches are necessary in the first place.... because MUSLIM TERRORISTS make it so!
Quote:examples like these, it sure looks like that's the case.
Your examples are poorly constructed straw men. Come back when you have something better.
Quote:case in point, I can take the most negative stereotypes to make a judgment on the secular world.
Okay, what examples do you have that are as awful as stoning women for being raped and people killing their daughters because they succumbed to their hormones?
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
