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Hypothetically, science proves free will isn't real
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RE: Hypothetically, science proves free will isn't real
(July 6, 2016 at 3:51 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:
(July 6, 2016 at 10:53 am)mlmooney89 Wrote: ...I will go off a slightly different branch here. The whole free will thing is in itself proof that god doesn't make exist. We have freewill to do as we please, he can't make us do anything correct? So then how does he have a plan?
Divine Providence doesn't require complete control over human agency to play out. Free-will/determinism need not be an all-or-nothing proposition. Saint Peter's thrice denial of Christ was necessary for the Divine Plan. Likewise, the hardening of Pharoah's heart. If need be, the Lord can intervene on select occasions. That doesn't mean must do it all the time.

So he just picks and chooses when to force someone to do something? At any given time if I am in his plan he can take over my freewill?
“What screws us up the most in life is the picture in our head of what it's supposed to be.”

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RE: Hypothetically, science proves free will isn't real - by mlmooney89 - July 6, 2016 at 3:54 pm

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