The Fly

[Sheed1980]

Obviously u did my friend. Because I never said the Prophet pbuh "Read" any of Allah's revelations. The Prophet Muhammad pbuh was illiterate, he could not read or write. And there are sound ahadith that support this statement. Another thing u have to realize is with scholars there are many opinionated differences between their views. However there are also many things that they unanimously agree on. A good way to look at the hadith is Allah gives us the example of the situation in the Qur'an (the law) but he allows the Prophet Muhammad pbuh to define them for us in the Hadith (application). For instance with surah 53 Allah mentions the ma'arij or ascension of the Prophet pbuh to Paradise, but doesn't go into extreme detail. However there are Hadith that the Prophet pbuh gives explanation and detail to an extent of what he witnessed in Paradise so our finite human minds could get somewhat of an image of what Paradise consists of. He tells us of the trees in Paradise not a single one of them does not have a trunk that is of gold. The mansions are so large that it would take a fast horse 60 years to reach from one corner to the other, and they are built with bricks of gold and silver. The houris are so beautiful we would think them as red wine in crystal white glasses. The water of Paradise is whiter than milk and sweeter than honey. These are just a few of descriptions of Paradise that are in the Hadith which Allah has allowed and blessed us to have knowledge of through His messenger Muhammad pbuh. So in the Qur'an Allah gives us the example of His word and command, but He allows the Prophet pbuh to give us a further description of His word and command in the Hadith, not just of Paradise but all of Allah's word and knowledge that He chose to reveal to the Prophet pbuh for us to know.

OMG..Dear lord, seriously sheed?

Seriously?

You are playing word gymnastics ?

Phewww..off to the dictionary we go:

reading

ˈriːdɪŋ/
noun
noun: reading; plural noun: readings
an occasion at which pieces of literature are read to an audience.
"a poetry reading"

• a piece of literature or passage of scripture that is read aloud.
  "readings from the Bible"
  
  

Okay. Now we know that the word "reading" means to "say aloud into a crowd" a piece of literature or a passage from the scripture.
Now -deer sheed- we come to your practice of linguistic gymnastics:

"Does the location of a scripture, needs to be a written book? following the official definition of the word "reading"? or in other words: am I that ignorant, to think that Mohammed did read, despite me being a Musilim for like 24 years?????? a native Arab, too xD?"

Let's see what the Quran said about the location of the Quran during the time Mohammed used to READ from it:

Sura 29
( 47 )   And thus We have sent down to you the Qur'an. And those to whom We [previously] gave the Scripture believe in it. And among these [people of Makkah] are those who believe in it. And none reject Our verses except the disbelievers.
( 48 )   And you did not recite before it any scripture, nor did you inscribe one with your right hand. Otherwise the falsifiers would have had [cause for] doubt.
( 49 )   Rather, the Qur'an is distinct verses [preserved] within the breasts of those who have been given knowledge. And none reject Our verses except the wrongdoers.

See the bold verses.
I should've used "recite". But I thought we're grown ups. 

recite
rɪˈsʌɪt/
verb
verb: recite; 3rd person present: recites; past tense: recited; past participle: recited; gerund or present participle: reciting

1. repeat aloud or declaim (a poem or passage) from memory before an audience.
   "he recited passages of Dante"
   synonyms:
   repeat from memory, say aloud, read aloud, declaim, quote, speak, deliver, render; More
   
   • say aloud (a series of names, facts, etc.).
     "she recited the dates and names of kings and queens"
     synonyms:
     enumerate, list, detail, itemize, reel off, rattle off; 
     recount, relate, describe, narrate,give an account of, run through, recapitulate, repeat, rehearse, specify, particularize,spell out
     "once again, Sir John recited the facts they knew"
     
     

 

And still, it is correct to say that "somebody is reading from memory". The previous sentence, is exactly equivalent to recite.
Word gymnastics, are when you "act as a child, and snipe for tangling with meanings to extend an argument you already lost".
Just like an arrogant child who can't admit that his whole faith is -ironically- just like a fly, which got flushed in a toilet, to get its wings broken. A fly so noisy. Pretty much just like the weak faith you carry, there is no argument between me and you.
Please, reply to my previous comment, because you didn't. Reply to the Hadiths that accuse prophet Mohammed to be a pedophile who used to kiss children's penises, and please don't use word gymnastics. It's your loss; not mine.

Well I'm only responding to the message u left me my friend. When u put what Muhammad pbuh " WAS READING" u used it in the form of a verb. To read is a verb or action which Muhammad pbuh could not perform. Now the definition u just gave of "A READING" is a noun. If u had used it that Muhammad pbuh was preaching or reciting A READING then I would agree with u. So I'm not trying to play on words I am simply responding to the message u left. So yes, we are grown ups. I just didn't know if u knew about Muhammad's pbuh illiteracy or not because of how u responded. But I apologize for responding that way to u when I simply misunderstood ur point off of a small mistake.
I've never seen u or met u before. I don't know ur religious background or faith or anything. So u say that u r a Muslim of 24 years and also an Arab, Alhamdulillah! I don't know that just by talking to u over the website. Allah is only All-Knowing. And u keep sending Qur'anic verses trying to make it seem like I don't believe in the Qur'an as Allah's word alone. I believe in the Qur'an and all of its miracles and know that it is Allah's word. I will never deny that in my entire life (Insha'allah). My point is that the Prophet Muhammad saws was amongst the Sahaba which were verifiers of many of the sound Ahadith. In no way am I saying the hadith came before the Qur'an. Allah sent His law first and as the Prophet saws applied the law to his own lifestyle, these are things that his wives and Sahaba heard him say. So my bottom line is Allah bases everything on our intention and of our knowledge of a subject. If a hadith is listed as sound and has been that same way for centuries after the Prophet's saws death, yes ur right we weren't there to hear him actually say it so we don't know if he did, but we also weren't there to hear him not say it so u can't claim that it is totally false as a hadith. That is all I'm saying brother. As-Salaamu 'alaikum wa rahmatulaahi wa barakaatu.