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Amoral Inaction
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RE: Amoral Inaction
(April 29, 2011 at 10:34 am)Gawdzilla Wrote: Before discussing the difference between the deistic God and no god, I always ask, "how do you define a god"? Seems like I never get the same answer twice.

Mysterious mind behind the natural universe that may have had some involvement in our evolution, ensuring that we might develop the minds and potential that we have. Beyond that, it's up for grabs. It could be the FSM for all we know.
(April 29, 2011 at 11:13 am)tackattack Wrote: @corndog- that's because deism is theism.

Theism is a belief in a personal god. Deism is not.

Quote:cites no cauality and is the very definition of a God of the Gaps fallacy
I never said it was a reason that anyone else should believe. It's how I see the universe. Standards of proof are different for personal philosophy than for science.

#2 answered above.

Quote:3)So your contention is that
a)causal atheists see the universe as something that we're lucky to have, rather than a mechanism.
b)socially, material atheism purports natuaral selection alone without factoring in the human mind and our capacity for building our civilization as an intention.

I recognize they hate the word "luck" but I use it to distinguish from intent. Deism is distinguished from believing that the universe explains itself well enough without speculating on intent. As for the human mind, so much came together in our evolution thereof. It could be good fortune or something helped the process along.
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Amoral Inaction - by FadingW - April 27, 2011 at 11:35 pm
RE: Amoral Inaction - by Minimalist - April 27, 2011 at 11:38 pm
RE: Amoral Inaction - by reverendjeremiah - April 27, 2011 at 11:51 pm
RE: Amoral Inaction - by Cinjin - April 27, 2011 at 11:52 pm
RE: Amoral Inaction - by padraic - April 28, 2011 at 12:06 am
RE: Amoral Inaction - by Cinjin - April 28, 2011 at 12:10 am
RE: Amoral Inaction - by Minimalist - April 28, 2011 at 1:29 am
RE: Amoral Inaction - by Cinjin - April 28, 2011 at 2:39 am
RE: Amoral Inaction - by Captain Scarlet - April 28, 2011 at 3:59 am
RE: Amoral Inaction - by Cinjin - April 28, 2011 at 1:48 pm
RE: Amoral Inaction - by Captain Scarlet - April 29, 2011 at 12:18 am
RE: Amoral Inaction - by Cinjin - April 29, 2011 at 2:34 am
RE: Amoral Inaction - by Captain Scarlet - April 29, 2011 at 4:54 am
RE: Amoral Inaction - by orogenicman - April 28, 2011 at 4:38 am
RE: Amoral Inaction - by DeistPaladin - April 28, 2011 at 9:22 am
RE: Amoral Inaction - by Doubting Thomas - April 28, 2011 at 10:09 am
RE: Amoral Inaction - by reverendjeremiah - April 29, 2011 at 6:26 am
RE: Amoral Inaction - by tackattack - April 29, 2011 at 7:11 am
RE: Amoral Inaction - by Cinjin - April 29, 2011 at 11:24 am
RE: Amoral Inaction - by DeistPaladin - April 29, 2011 at 9:43 am
RE: Amoral Inaction - by Gawdzilla - April 29, 2011 at 9:46 am
RE: Amoral Inaction - by tackattack - April 29, 2011 at 10:04 am
RE: Amoral Inaction - by DeistPaladin - April 29, 2011 at 10:32 am
RE: Amoral Inaction - by Captain Scarlet - April 29, 2011 at 3:42 pm
RE: Amoral Inaction - by DeistPaladin - April 29, 2011 at 3:51 pm
RE: Amoral Inaction - by thesummerqueen - April 30, 2011 at 6:18 am
RE: Amoral Inaction - by Captain Scarlet - April 30, 2011 at 7:01 am
RE: Amoral Inaction - by Gawdzilla - April 29, 2011 at 10:34 am
RE: Amoral Inaction - by DeistPaladin - April 29, 2011 at 11:14 am
RE: Amoral Inaction - by corndog36 - April 29, 2011 at 10:46 am
RE: Amoral Inaction - by DeistPaladin - April 29, 2011 at 11:12 am
RE: Amoral Inaction - by tackattack - April 29, 2011 at 11:13 am
RE: Amoral Inaction - by thesummerqueen - April 29, 2011 at 12:46 pm
RE: Amoral Inaction - by Cinjin - April 29, 2011 at 12:58 pm
RE: Amoral Inaction - by tackattack - April 29, 2011 at 1:05 pm
RE: Amoral Inaction - by Cinjin - April 29, 2011 at 11:40 pm
RE: Amoral Inaction - by tackattack - April 30, 2011 at 6:49 am
RE: Amoral Inaction - by Cinjin - April 30, 2011 at 12:12 pm
RE: Amoral Inaction - by tackattack - April 30, 2011 at 1:27 pm
RE: Amoral Inaction - by Cinjin - April 30, 2011 at 2:45 pm
RE: Amoral Inaction - by tackattack - April 30, 2011 at 9:38 pm
RE: Amoral Inaction - by Cinjin - May 1, 2011 at 1:35 am
RE: Amoral Inaction - by thesummerqueen - April 29, 2011 at 1:07 pm
RE: Amoral Inaction - by DeistPaladin - April 29, 2011 at 1:14 pm
RE: Amoral Inaction - by tackattack - April 29, 2011 at 1:08 pm
RE: Amoral Inaction - by thesummerqueen - April 29, 2011 at 1:12 pm
RE: Amoral Inaction - by tackattack - April 29, 2011 at 1:22 pm
RE: Amoral Inaction - by thesummerqueen - April 29, 2011 at 1:37 pm

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