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Poll: What kind of atheist are you; passive, neutral or active?
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Active (anti-religion)
50.00%
16 50.00%
Neutral (not pro- or anti-religion)
46.88%
15 46.88%
Passive (opposed to active atheism)
3.13%
1 3.13%
Total 32 vote(s) 100%
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Active/Passive Atheist?
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RE: Active/Passive Atheist?
(July 15, 2016 at 2:46 am)Detachable Wrote: The reason for this pole was...
Several months ago I joined a local atheist group. I'd never joined such a group before and admit thinking that the other members would be like me, in the sense that they decided they were atheists because they thought believing in religion was foolish and dangerous and that they thought one owed it to oneself and society to advocate for atheism and against religion. The only question I had was, just how aggressive might they be in such a role.
So, I was astonished to find that several (about half?), of the 8 or 10 who showed up that evening stated they were not at all 'activist' in their atheism; that they simply didn't believe in god. And yes, some even said they thought to argue against faith was being inconsiderate of others' rights to believe.
I assume many in the current forum have heard of the four famous new atheists, (sometimes called the "four horsemen of the non apocalypse"); Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens (RIP), Sam Harris and Daniel Dennett. Anyhow, if you read their books; to me, it becomes undeniable that belief in god is not just foolish, but dangerous and a tremendous burden on humanity and the world. (Even without reading these guys, simple adult reflection on the question should result in the same conclusion.) Once this realization is gained, it seems unconscionable to me to have a passive attitude about it: 'I don't believe in god, but I don't care if others do.' It seems to me that if one has that attitude then you are either not being honest with yourself, or you don't care about the damage that religion does. And I ask myself, Why would I want to associate with such a person?


I think what motivates you is your own disposition to "do something".  My disposition is to try and understand how people can be so different.  As one sort of person, my disposition is not to persuade the others to be more like me.  

Have you ever wondered why god belief goes back further than historical record can follow and seems nearly pervasive every where humans have lived?  I have and I'm not fond of glib suggestions that before we were just stupid and primitive but now we should know better.  That's just what you say when you don't really care about understanding the question.
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Active/Passive Atheist? - by Detachable - July 11, 2016 at 2:02 am
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by emjay - July 11, 2016 at 2:18 am
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by Edwardo Piet - July 11, 2016 at 2:29 am
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by Excited Penguin - July 15, 2016 at 1:13 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by robvalue - July 11, 2016 at 3:22 am
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by Edwardo Piet - July 11, 2016 at 4:12 am
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by brewer - July 11, 2016 at 7:59 am
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by ignoramus - July 11, 2016 at 8:10 am
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by Alex K - July 11, 2016 at 8:24 am
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by Thumpalumpacus - July 11, 2016 at 11:34 am
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by RozKek - July 11, 2016 at 11:52 am
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by Lucifer - July 11, 2016 at 11:56 am
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by Whateverist - July 11, 2016 at 12:00 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by vorlon13 - July 11, 2016 at 12:03 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by bennyboy - July 11, 2016 at 12:07 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by KevinM1 - July 11, 2016 at 12:23 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by Detachable - July 11, 2016 at 1:15 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by mlmooney89 - July 11, 2016 at 1:16 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by LivingNumbers6.626 - July 11, 2016 at 9:43 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by Angrboda - July 11, 2016 at 9:54 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by Alex K - July 15, 2016 at 2:49 am
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by bennyboy - July 15, 2016 at 7:23 am
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by Detachable - July 15, 2016 at 2:46 am
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by mlmooney89 - July 15, 2016 at 11:47 am
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by Whateverist - July 15, 2016 at 11:56 am
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by madog - July 15, 2016 at 3:03 am
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by chimp3 - July 15, 2016 at 7:30 am
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by Detachable - July 15, 2016 at 11:22 am
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by emjay - July 15, 2016 at 1:08 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by Detachable - July 26, 2016 at 1:48 am
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2016 at 11:28 am
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by downbeatplumb - July 15, 2016 at 11:46 am
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by c172 - July 15, 2016 at 11:59 am
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by robvalue - July 15, 2016 at 12:13 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by Edwardo Piet - July 15, 2016 at 12:29 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by robvalue - July 15, 2016 at 1:13 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by emjay - July 15, 2016 at 1:26 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by Excited Penguin - July 15, 2016 at 1:24 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by robvalue - July 15, 2016 at 1:30 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by emjay - July 15, 2016 at 1:46 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by Iroscato - July 15, 2016 at 1:31 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by drfuzzy - July 15, 2016 at 1:34 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by Whateverist - July 15, 2016 at 1:40 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by mlmooney89 - July 15, 2016 at 1:54 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by robvalue - July 15, 2016 at 1:34 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by robvalue - July 15, 2016 at 1:43 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by robvalue - July 15, 2016 at 1:51 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by mlmooney89 - July 15, 2016 at 1:55 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by robvalue - July 15, 2016 at 1:56 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by emjay - July 15, 2016 at 2:01 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by Athene - July 15, 2016 at 7:25 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by Whateverist - July 15, 2016 at 7:50 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by Athene - July 15, 2016 at 7:59 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by Whateverist - July 15, 2016 at 10:23 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by Athene - July 15, 2016 at 11:46 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by robvalue - July 16, 2016 at 1:08 am
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by MJ the Skeptical - July 16, 2016 at 6:34 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by The Viking - July 16, 2016 at 6:39 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by Excited Penguin - July 16, 2016 at 6:58 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by The Viking - July 16, 2016 at 7:06 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by Ivan Denisovich - July 26, 2016 at 3:24 am
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by robvalue - July 26, 2016 at 11:06 am
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by Whateverist - July 26, 2016 at 11:24 am
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by rado84 - July 27, 2016 at 8:17 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by MJ the Skeptical - August 12, 2016 at 9:19 am
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by Whateverist - August 12, 2016 at 1:49 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by MJ the Skeptical - August 13, 2016 at 3:23 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by Jesster - August 12, 2016 at 1:53 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by The Grand Nudger - August 12, 2016 at 4:45 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by Whateverist - August 12, 2016 at 6:09 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by Whateverist - August 12, 2016 at 6:18 pm
RE: Active/Passive Atheist? - by abaris - August 12, 2016 at 6:28 pm

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