Ehh... free will?

[Excited Penguin]

Yes, I can account for choosing one over the other.  It is due to me having the free will to choose between two different things.

Anyone else notice how if free will is the ability to choose one option over an other and one can account for it by having free will then that's a massively circular argument?

"How do you have free will?"

"By choosing one option over an other."

"How do you choose one option over an other?"

"With free will."

"How is the Bible true?"

"Because God wrote it."

"How can we trust what God writes?"

"Because the Bible says so."

^^^ Equivalents ^^^. It's theist logic.

Anyone else notice that Kitan/Maelstrom is basically saying "I can account for choosing to do otherwise by choosing to do otherwise" or "I can account for free will by using my free will."?

I did see that, but, to be fair, I also kind of understand his point. He isn't concentrating on the issue in a scientific manner, and it isn't his fault, this notion is fairly common in people's heads. When he's talking about free will, he's actually talking about the effect of a given action, namely, that exact experience of deciding to do something over something else. He is trying to articulate the effect, whereas we are trying to steer him toward the cause.