RE: Ehh... free will?
July 16, 2016 at 6:08 am
(This post was last modified: July 16, 2016 at 6:31 am by RozKek.)
(July 15, 2016 at 8:56 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:(July 15, 2016 at 8:45 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: We have free will because, quantum mechanics, and, it's complex? Did you even bother to read this?
First, the brain's neuronal processes behave according to classical mechanical principles. Any role for quantum indeterminacy remains unproven.
That it's complex doesn't mean you can just wave your hands and free will emerges. Complex isn't free; only complex.
Did you read any of my previous posts? There is free will. This is me freely waving my hands.
Did you break the chain of causality by doing so? Did you freely order your neurons to defy causality and move independently? Your demonstrations are very weak. I can also flap the shit out of my hands and do some unnatural stuff to "demonstrate" that free will exists but that would in short still be my neural net interacting with each other making "me" believe in free will and trying to demonstrate it exists doing all that.
You've yet to give a good explanation of how free will can possibly exist. And I'm talking about the will where the free part is you are ultimately deciding, where it is not either determined nor random. It's nonsensical isn't it? If it's determined then you cannot determine otherwise. If it's random then it's random. There's no determining in indeterminism. Well I've heard random is free but the only thing it's free from is determinism, it's still not a free choice. I've yet to find a good explanation of how a random choice is a free choice.
