Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: January 23, 2025, 12:09 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
free will
#1
free will
Hey guys, back once again with hopefully some interesting food for thought!

This time I have a question about free will. Please keep in mind that I do not have my own opinion in this matter, nor do I try to convince any of you into anything, but I like to make people think about stuff; not to form an opinion, but just for the lolz.



I think we all agree that the universe consists of particles, and particles alone, such as quarks, elektrons, etc. Those particles do not have an own will: they cannot choose where and when to go anywhere. Whatever happens to them is the result of forces interacting with them, forces such as gravitational force, elektromagnetic force, ... Those forces also do not have an own will: they can't choose whether or not to interact with anything. 
Now for exemple: any person is made out of particles who are moved by forces, and since these forces never change, whatever happens to that person and whatever he does cannot change, for that would imply that either these particles can choose or these forces can change. In other words, that person has no free will. (A question for another thread could be: then what does it mean to be 'human'?)

The only thing what I know of that isn't always certain is the strange world of quantum mechanics, yet for what I know about it, it works with chances which is still not free will. Having a chance of winning the lottery is not a matter of free will or not. But correct me if I'm wrong on this, I'm just a school boy, not your everyday quantum physicist.

This means that nothing of what we know of the universe gives us free will and that everything we do is destined to happen.
The only way that we can still choose is if something we know nothing about interferes. This can either be something natural of this universe which we haven't discoverd yet, or something unnatural. What that could be, if it even exists, is up to your own fantasy. Maybe it's a pink flying unicorn from another universe who like to play the piano on sunny summery sundays.


What are your thoughts about this?
whatever floats your goat
Reply



Messages In This Thread
free will - by Sappho - July 26, 2016 at 8:21 am
RE: free will - by The Grand Nudger - July 26, 2016 at 9:11 am
RE: free will - by Sappho - July 26, 2016 at 10:23 am
RE: free will - by Whateverist - July 26, 2016 at 11:04 am
RE: free will - by brewer - July 26, 2016 at 1:42 pm
RE: free will - by Alex K - July 26, 2016 at 9:12 am
RE: free will - by Edwardo Piet - July 26, 2016 at 9:16 am
RE: free will - by brewer - July 26, 2016 at 9:21 am
RE: free will - by Sappho - July 26, 2016 at 10:40 am
RE: free will - by Edwardo Piet - July 26, 2016 at 10:44 am
RE: free will - by The Grand Nudger - July 26, 2016 at 11:04 am
RE: free will - by Sappho - July 26, 2016 at 3:42 pm
RE: free will - by bennyboy - July 26, 2016 at 1:15 pm
RE: free will - by Edwardo Piet - July 26, 2016 at 1:16 pm
RE: free will - by Edwardo Piet - July 26, 2016 at 1:17 pm
RE: free will - by bennyboy - July 26, 2016 at 7:07 pm
RE: free will - by Whateverist - July 26, 2016 at 2:06 pm
RE: free will - by brewer - July 26, 2016 at 3:27 pm
RE: free will - by Sappho - July 26, 2016 at 3:09 pm
RE: free will - by Sappho - July 26, 2016 at 3:24 pm
RE: free will - by Whateverist - July 26, 2016 at 5:35 pm
RE: free will - by The Grand Nudger - July 26, 2016 at 4:10 pm
RE: free will - by Angrboda - July 26, 2016 at 8:40 pm
free will - by LadyForCamus - July 26, 2016 at 8:54 pm
RE: free will - by fdesilva - August 16, 2016 at 8:28 am
RE: free will - by Edwardo Piet - August 16, 2016 at 8:59 am



Users browsing this thread: 2 Guest(s)