(May 6, 2011 at 4:37 am)Rwandrall Wrote:(May 6, 2011 at 3:46 am)Godschild Wrote: You are pretty much correct in what you said, here's the reason most christians do not try to help people to convert to christianity, we are always accused of being pushy or telling others they need to believe what we do and others say that we need to keep our religion to ourselves. Some times remarks like those can come back to bite. So if you want to see more christians wittnessing then lighten up.
My brother want even have a conversation about God, when God is mentioned when he's around, he's off and gone. I would cherish the chance to tell him about Christ if he would just listen. Maybe your brother feels the same way and said what he did to get you thinking and just maybe he did!
The problem is that secularism and the acceptance of other faiths cannot comply with Christianity, only because of this notion of Hell...this is really too bad. Because of that idea that one's faith is the only true one, there can simply never be peace between religions. It is logically impossible. I see no way out as long as those religions hold those beliefs.
I think Evangelical Christians ARE being pushy, but i can't just say "it's okay because that's what their religion tells them". When someone does something objectionable (in my subjective view) in the name of religion i can disagree with them. But on the other hand, only that way do they seem sincere in their will to help others escape Hell. It's a paradox, really, but a paradox that is self-inflicted.
If a terrorist (to use an extreme example, i'll never equate distributing bibles to killing innocents) says that he has to do the killing because that is what the religion says and only that way can they truly be sincere in their beliefs...i can't just say "fair enough". On the contrary, i would say that the religion itself has a problem if it requires engaging in objectionable behavior.
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@Cinjin, that's a bit unfair, since two of those people are already dead
Yes I agree that some religions have ideas that are dangerous and frankly should not be tolerated. Even within christianity there are those who have dangerous ideas and I for one do not tolerate them.
Even if hell was not a part of christianity there still would be discord between religions and christianity, there is discord between different factions of Islam and there will always be discord between the different religions. Have you ever given any thought to christianity being the most plausible of the religions because of hell.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.