RE: Evidence for Jesus Christ?
May 9, 2011 at 1:40 pm
(This post was last modified: May 9, 2011 at 1:45 pm by Faith No More.)
(May 9, 2011 at 12:45 pm)alemcodon Wrote: And i do agree, when you take away god, you take away 'right and wrong' and we are heading towards a moraless society because of this. Being tolerant of someones elses opinion is not something you should be proud of, it should be expected.This is not true as theists underestimate the power of empathy in the human spirit. I am always curious about why the religious choose to use this arguement. It's simply admitting that without your religious beliefs to tell you what to do you would be completely amoral.
alemcodon Wrote:i dont completely disagree with evolution, there are aspects of it which are logical, ie natural selection, but each and every species was not created from random genetic mutations.Okay not a scientist but I do know that 2000 years on an evolutionary scale is a millisecond. So basically you're equating evolution to Rome being built in a day.
There are currently 2 milloin species on earth, and 99.9% of all species have been extinct in 3 billion hears since life inhabited earth. Do the math, thats an average of a new species every 10 years (roughly). In the last 2000yrs can anyone show me an example of a positive genetic mutation?
alemcodon Wrote:...religion causes all wars? no power money and greed causes wars, the religions is just how their labelled.Religion gave them their power and their greed.
alemcodon Wrote:example you say to anyone hitler/nazis and their first words would be blonde hair blue eyes aryan super race....yet can anyone show me a quote from his book about aryan super race? can anyone show me black slaves in nazi germany? can anyone show me mistreatment of blacks in USA during ww2? Has anyone ever read jessie owens book a bout the hitler snubbing him incidence? i was taught this sheiBe in school as fact, but it was all lies. Hitler never snubbed jessie owens, if you dnt believe me buy his book and read it yourself - in his own words. fact is Hitler was seen as a protector by african nations from the colonial onslaught of france, spain, italy and england 9scramble for africa) - they were all just as greedy and as evil as each other in those days.As a skeptic I can suggest you not to take anything a governemnt says at face value. The Owens vs. Hitler thing was wartime propoganda. Governements will say whatever they want if they believe it will get you to be on their side.
alemcodon Wrote:the greatest scientist in earths history was einstein - and he believed in god, more strongly as he discovered more because he fully understood the extremely fine and delicate balance of everything in the universe, which is not possible by chance.I love it when they trot out Einstien. Einstein believed in a creator, similar to a deist(someone else here could probably clarify no that further), not an all-powerful man in the sky watching over your shoulder. So when Einstein says 'God,' he is not talking about your God.
alemcodon Wrote:When you were born and you were a baby, what did you eat? the mass on your body is made of the matter which you ate/consumed, yes/no?When I first started reading your post I thought maybe you knew something about science, but after that garbage I can see that you are just another one of the people that read 'Science for Sixth Graders' and now suddenly thinks he gets it all. I wasted a good chunk of time splitting up your response because at first glimpse, you seemed to be an educated theist. But it stops here...
So if you following an atom of carbon in a cow shit, which a fruit plant has consumed, and then a chicken ate that plants seed, you have ate the chicken and/or the plant, that SAME matter is tranferring state, in various living organisms - and at the core.....You're physical mass is made of what you eat....
Nearly all the matter of earth has passed through some life form, the very first living cell on earth, then how did it come together? there must have been an intelligence where carbon atoms, mixed with water and amino acids and created the very first micro organism - so theres was an intellignce within the 'innate' atoms...so then why does this intelligence only live in the carbon atoms on earth and not the ones on jupitor?
Clearly from the diversity of life on earth, the 'intelligence' will stop at nothing to form more complex beings, but why only on earth.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell