The "Cultural Context" Excuse

[Rev. Rye]

You do realize that women don't have seed right? That that scripture is referring to Jesus who was born independent of a man, hence "woman's seed". Since there was to be enmity between the serpent seed and the woman's seed, are you saying that this enmity was Jesus between Jesus and snakes?

So, apparently, you don't believe that the Serpent was meant to be Satan?

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beguile

To beguile is defined as to deceive someone in a cunning way or to enchant someone and make him become attracted to you.

An example of beguile is when a politician uses clever words to trick people.
An example of beguile is a stunning woman wearing a slinky dress.

Emphasis mine: Beguile can mean what you have wanted it to mean, but, of course, that's not the only definition. Even the definition you cited says that it doesn't necessarily have to mean sexual seduction, as in the passages I bolded from the definition that, I repeat, you brought up.

It is evident from the composition of biblical genealogies that the status of bekhor was a pervasive feature of Israelite life. In many such lists there is a formula which specifies the status of the first-listed son. For example, Numbers 1:20: "The sons of Reuben, the firstborn of Israel, were…" (cf. e.g., Gen. 35:23; 36:15; Ex. 6:14, and frequently in the genealogies of I Chron.). Even in genealogies which do not specifically indicate the status of the first son listed, it is clear that he is the firstborn. There are suggestions in the Bible that primogeniture carried certain duties and privileges in addition to the estate rights (see Gen. 27; 48:13; Judg. 8:20; I Chron. 26:10, etc.). The second in line was termed ha-mishneh (I Sam. 17:13; II Sam. 3:3; I Chron. 5:12).

It should be noted that, even in your geneology, Seth wouldn't be the first-born, but Abel. According to Genesis 4:25, Seth was conceived after Abel's murder, and, quite frankly, even the name "Seth" points towards my interpretation that, after Cain's slaying of Abel and his being forced to walk the Earth, Adam and Eve preferred to see him as the true firstborn son; the name Seth translates (from Hebrew) into 'Substitute', as he was a substitute for the two brothers who had been taken from their lives, especially given that, from what I've read, the writers of Genesis tended to see the Cain bloodline as, for all intents and purposes, a metaphorical abortion.

Insane troll logic? Just remember you're arguing in favor of there being a talking snake...

Something I wouldn't have had to do if you didn't bring up a more asinine theory. Hell, I only even used the "Serpent" teminology because that's the perspective you're arguing from. Honestly, if you entered in on discussion about The Catcher in The Rye, and claimed with the same fervency as you exhibit here that the text implies Holden Caulfield is a Time Lord who is actually his own biological father, I'd be doing the same.

The bible is not using a metaphor when it refers to the descendants of Adam as "sons of God", Adam was created by God. Christians are sons and daughters of God through adoption... again, no metaphor.

Ephesians 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

How is the adoption not a metaphor?

a·dopt
əˈdäpt/
verb
verb: adopt; 3rd person present: adopts; past tense: adopted; past participle: adopted; gerund or present participle: adopting

legally take another's child and bring it up as one's own.
"there are many people eager to adopt a baby"
synonyms: take as one's child, be adoptive parents to, take in, take care of
"we adopted Sasha in 1996"
antonyms: abandon
take up or start to use or follow (an idea, method, or course of action).
"this approach has been adopted by many big banks"
synonyms: espouse, take on/up, embrace, assume; More
appropriate, arrogate
"they adopted local customs"
antonyms: abandon, reject
take on or assume (an attitude or position).
"he adopted a patronizing tone"
choose someone to receive special recognition.
"at least 23 people adopted as “prisoners of conscience” remain in jail"
synonyms: choose, select, pick, vote for, elect, settle on, decide on, opt for; More
name, nominate, appoint
"the people adopted him as their patron saint"
antonyms: reject
formally approve or accept (a report or suggestion).
"the committee voted 5–1 to adopt the proposal"
synonyms: espouse, take on/up, embrace, assume; More
appropriate, arrogate
"they adopted local customs"
antonyms: abandon, reject
choose (a textbook) as standard or required for a course of study.
choose (an animal) to become a house pet.
"the best way to know a dog's traits is to adopt a mature dog"
(of a local authority) accept responsibility for the maintenance of (a road).

Only the first of these definitions sounds like they can even apply to this one. And, of course, given that Adoption, in that definition implies legal work, which I don't see in that passage.

So again, where did these daughters of man come from?

I was under the impression that even you could figure out that the "Daughters of man" were meant to be the descendants of Cain.

You see, Huggy Bear, there's a reason I didn't bother talking about the other two verses. It's very difficult for me to see how they could square with your interpretation. I have read writings by people who claim that governments are corporations, people are legally equivalent to boats, and you can get a 'get out of the Rule of Law free card' with semantics and putting random punctuation in your name, and they still make more sense than your arguments.

*emphasis mine*

Not sure what point your trying to make

Simple: Sovereign Citizens/Freemen on the Land use leaps of logic to claim that their local government has no real jurisdiction over them that are just as ridiculous as the ones you have made in this thread. However, even in those cases, it's still a lot easier to follow exactly where the support for their argument is meant to be in their case than in yours.