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Minds and Events
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RE: Minds and Events
(August 14, 2016 at 4:18 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
Quote:Simultaneous events give rise to feelings?  What does that even mean?  I think you're developing a word salad.  Feelings are caused by physical and mental events.  In space, physical things can cause reactions in other physical things.  Therefore it's possible that feelings are caused by other physical things, and therefore mental events may be physical events.

In regards to the above question, please consider the following

Passage of time
       Time passes from one instant to the next. This allows for a well defined past, current and future      instant of time
 
Perception
 
Consider the experience of watching an apple. If we close our eyes the apple cannot be perceived. From this observation we can conclude that the light from the apple stimulates the eyes which in turn stimulate the brain which results in an apple appearing in the mind. From this experience we get the following axioms.

Axiom A
 
Stimulating events in the eyes give rise to Perception located within the brain at the current instant.
 
Axiom B
 
Perception consists of 2 components.
 1. The observed or the object of perception (U) that is the apple.
 2. The perceiver or the thing looking at the apple. (I)
 
Events of perception
 
Consider the distribution of events in the brain pertaining to perception. U the apple or the first component at any given instant will correspond to a set of simultaneous events in the brain
 
I the second component by the act of perception will connect this set of simultaneous brain events.
 
2 Special Relativity physics and simultaneous events
 
Special Relativity groups all events into 2 distinct groups.
 1. Time-like separated events
 2. Space-like separated events.
 
Time like separated events.
 
These are events that are separated in space and time such that there is sufficient time for a beam of light from one event to have reached the second event.
 
Space-like separated events.
 
These are events that are separated in space and time such that light from any one event can never reach any of the other events. Thus simultaneous events are space-like separated. That is even 2 event occurring 0.0001 mm from each other in the same instant will be space-like separated.
 
 

 
3 Pivotal Argument
 
P1. Thus the events of U at a given instant is space-like separated.
P2. Perception connects these events.
P3. Special relativity states that nothing physical (material) can connect space-like separated events.
C1. Therefore perception as it connects space-like separated events of U, cannot be physical. That is it is non physical or dualistic.
 
 
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Messages In This Thread
Minds and Events - by fdesilva - August 14, 2016 at 1:19 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by Grandizer - August 14, 2016 at 1:26 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by account_inactive - August 14, 2016 at 1:27 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by robvalue - August 14, 2016 at 1:30 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by robvalue - August 15, 2016 at 8:30 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by robvalue - August 16, 2016 at 6:39 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by downbeatplumb - August 14, 2016 at 1:32 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by Edwardo Piet - August 14, 2016 at 1:39 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by brewer - August 14, 2016 at 1:45 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by Angrboda - August 14, 2016 at 4:18 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by fdesilva - August 15, 2016 at 7:56 am
RE: Minds and Events - by Angrboda - August 15, 2016 at 10:28 am
RE: Minds and Events - by fdesilva - August 15, 2016 at 7:35 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by Angrboda - August 15, 2016 at 9:06 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by fdesilva - August 15, 2016 at 11:40 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by Excited Penguin - August 14, 2016 at 4:20 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by Faith No More - August 14, 2016 at 4:29 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by account_inactive - August 14, 2016 at 4:30 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by Excited Penguin - August 14, 2016 at 4:32 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by Edwardo Piet - August 14, 2016 at 4:27 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by Faith No More - August 14, 2016 at 4:27 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by Pat Mustard - August 14, 2016 at 4:40 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by Whateverist - August 14, 2016 at 4:54 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by Pat Mustard - August 14, 2016 at 5:02 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by bennyboy - August 14, 2016 at 5:50 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by fdesilva - August 19, 2016 at 2:07 am
RE: Minds and Events - by ignoramus - August 15, 2016 at 2:44 am
RE: Minds and Events - by Arkilogue - August 15, 2016 at 5:06 am
RE: Minds and Events - by Jackalope - August 15, 2016 at 2:51 am
RE: Minds and Events - by DLJ - August 15, 2016 at 4:51 am
RE: Minds and Events - by Pat Mustard - August 16, 2016 at 11:22 am
RE: Minds and Events - by fdesilva - August 16, 2016 at 6:41 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by chimp3 - August 15, 2016 at 5:44 am
RE: Minds and Events - by purplepurpose - August 15, 2016 at 6:00 am
RE: Minds and Events - by Jesster - August 15, 2016 at 6:04 am
RE: Minds and Events - by downbeatplumb - August 15, 2016 at 12:40 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by Angrboda - August 15, 2016 at 12:43 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by downbeatplumb - August 15, 2016 at 3:35 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by bennyboy - August 15, 2016 at 5:31 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by Arkilogue - August 15, 2016 at 5:34 pm
Minds and Events - by LadyForCamus - August 15, 2016 at 8:03 am

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