(August 15, 2016 at 5:39 pm)abaris Wrote:(August 15, 2016 at 5:22 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: Individuals carry out the attacks but the poison is in the Quranic root and manifests in the fruit of more than one branch of Islam.
Would you be surprised if I don't take the wisdom of the competing franchise not too seriously? A good hard look at the bible is in order. Both books. If read with an open mind, both the Quran and the bible are on an equally atrocious level. So the only remaining question is what people make of it. And since, in the case of many muslim countries, we're talking about borderline failed states, it's rather obvious why all of this happens.
But it's not as if christians or jews, when radicalised, would be any better. There's only a very thin coat of societal norms and laws preventing them from acting on their vile religious instincts. Sometimes the coat breaks and the very same uglyness is reveiled.
"...but the Christians..." (Islamophilic cliche #267)
This is called the Tu Quoque fallacy. It's the last line of defense for those who have none. Every parent knows this fallacy as "C'mon mom/dad, get off my back, everybody does it." Every parent knows why this argument can't be allowed to stand. It breaks down accountability, diffuses responsibility and degrades standards by normalizing bad behavior. One person's wrong doing does not excuse another's.
Like most uses of the Tu Quoque fallacy as a last defense, it draws on false comparisons. Besides the fact that we oppose Christian theocracy, so I'm not even sure what your point is in bringing them up, it's clear that there is both more of a push for that in Islam and that the outcome will be worse. Current surveys suggest that 2/3rds of Muslims support Sharia Law whereas Christian Dominionism is so obscure that even among fundies they represent a tiny minority. Why is that?
For all it's flaws, and they are quite numerous, Christianity does have two things that enable it to adapt to a free and modern society:
1. Their kingdom is in a "higher place" so render unto Caesar and all that.
2. The five magic words "Jesus died to fulfill that" are a huge escape hatch for the moderate that allows them to essentially make Christianity into whatever they want it to be.
Islam doesn't have either characteristic in its theology. It was started by a warlord, not an other-worldly end-times doom crier. It's Caliphate is to be brought to this world and there is no escape hatch for the moderate aside from simply ignoring what's written in the scriptures.
The outcome, once theocracy is established, isn't even close to being comparable. Much outrage was generated, and rightly so, about Christian-majority Uganda's attempt to implement a "kill the gays" law. There are 10 countries that actually HAVE kill-the-gays laws on the books. Coincidentally, they all happen to be majority Muslim.
There are also 13 countries that have "kill the atheists" laws on the books. They all happen to be majority Muslim.
That's just the tip of the iceberg. I could go on and on about objective measures that Islam, certainly as it is practiced today, is clearly a more dangerous religion. Christianity is obnoxious but Islam is worse.
"You don't need facts when you got Jesus." -Pastor Deacon Fred, Landover Baptist Church
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