(August 16, 2016 at 3:14 pm)SteveII Wrote:(August 16, 2016 at 2:47 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: And it's because we both are willing to believe that everything we 'know' about the way the world operates can be suspended on hearsay based on the say-so of clearly self-interested, alleged witnesses that we have both embraced the Good News of Apollonius of Tyana, right Steve? Right?!?
Or is this where you (a) indulge in special pleading or (b) an appeal to popularity.
Except the parts that are not hearsay, the parts that have no evidence of any theory about lying for self interest (oh, that would be all of it), and the parts that are eyewitness testimony (Peter, James, John, Luke reporting the testimony of eyewitnesses, and Paul spending time with and referring to eyewitnesses). You haven't mentioned the churches that pre-existed the NT docs...but I'm sure we can find a way to dismiss those pesky facts. Yes, except for these exceptions you have an exceptional argument.
Special pleading? Appeal to popularity? Don't have to. Got the evidence above.
A guy writing some shit that some other person told them is neither eyewitness testimony or proper evidence.
Fuck it. We've been here already. We're going in circles again and Steve's not listening.
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I don't believe you. Get over it.