(May 13, 2011 at 2:21 pm)Girlysprite Wrote: Can someone tell of Darkblight is a troll - a theist pretending to be an atheist?
Frodo - the perfect moral is not clear. Over the world hundreds of factions are trying hard to find the best way to interpet the bible, and they all get different results. And really, I'd rather not condone slavery as part of the 'perfect moral'. Just an example.
I think much of our morals have progressed. Yes, I'd certainly call it progression against the ages where witchburning, crusades and slavery were accepted, and excused with, or even caused by the bible.
i was kind of trolling there and being part serious, i am atheist and i think that the idea of "morality" is silly.
is it bad when a two animals in the forest fight? is it wrong when a gazel is eaten by a lion? we try to apply these ideas to humans because "we want to live in a society where we are not beat over the head with a club" but these things go on all the time.
in all seriousness you need to understand that winning the fight is the only morality.
i suppose i will try to phrase this better.. there is no great justice.. there is no reason to be "moral" other than fear of punishment.
if getting rid of 85% of the population and keeping a small amount of people to be slaves to their masters made the world a highly enjoyable place for the non-slaves.. well you better hope you are one of the non-slaves. this is going on all around us as we speak.. there are masters and slaves, rungs of social standing to climb.. and for you to get what you want someone is going to not get what they want.
there is no life after death people, this is it.. steal as much as you can without getting caught, take what you want and dance on the backs of the bruised if it gets you ahead.
just sick of the whole idea that we are going to somehow elevate and everyone is going to be kind to each other, that is not the nature of animals.. life is violent, selection has no morality.. nature has no morality.. and neither do humans.
"i hate therefore i am"
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