(May 11, 2011 at 9:19 am)Stue Denim Wrote: So, was watching evid3nc3's video's (which I highly recommend) which got me reflecting on my own experience, my journey from theism to atheism and the beliefs I held in between. I'm interesting in seeing what are the most commonly held beliefs during that transition, if any at all. So, what beliefs did you hold/explore?, list them in sequential order please =)
Reading parts of the bible (When I was catholic) turned me into a miso/dystheist. Though I soon shed that belief, realizing that the god portrayed in the bible is both evil AND non existent. I guess it was also satanism in the sense that I thought Satan was the good guy of the story, he gave us free will, refused to bow (fair enough) and having a much lower kill count than God.
From there I came to believe in a force of good and a force of evil, less anthropomorphic than Satan and God, not a personal god. Soon I came to start thinking of myself as a pantheist, (agnostic towards things like pansychism), the one question that did got to me is to do with the cosmic anthropic principle so I also made room for deism (not yet discovering that deism and pantheism could be merged). From there I moved to agnostic atheism in terms of deism but gnostic atheism in regards to most gods.
Discovered pandeism whilst researching deism and believed that for a while. No longer believe it, but still have time for it and deism*, I haven't yet debated a deist or pandeist but I would certainly look forward to it (anyone seen any good debates?)
So I guess again I'm back to agnostic atheism in respect to deism/pandeism and gnostic atheism in terms of all theistic gods I've heard of.
Other question: How do you feel about the term "agnostic atheist". I'm not a big fan of describing myself as such when it really depends on which god I'm being presented with, some are self refuting concepts *cough Yahweh cough*, most of the time I'm a gnostic atheist (so agnostic adeism, gnostic atheism?).
*(and the variations, poly-, -en-, so polypandeism, polypanendeism, panendeism...)
Progression:
1. Theism (Catholicism)
2. Miso/dystheism
3. good/dark force believer (jedi =P)
4. pantheism and/or deism
5. Agnostic atheism (depending)
6. Pandeism/deism
7. Agnostic atheism (depending)
i was born and raised an atheist.
have never not once had "faith" in any "god"
i was brought up in a house where god was another fairy tale.. only one that a lot of grown-ups still believed. i was told not to share this with people at school as teachers may single me out if i did.
was really good advice.
as i got older i would share my beliefs with people when asked, i once made a girl cry on the school bus who was listening to me and my friend talk
i was going on about some of the silly stuff people believe in, i think specifically i was talking about mormons, and the girl behind us who has been listening in burst into tears and moved seats.. i think something i said hit a nerve..
since then, in public, i refrain from sharing my beliefs. it only serves to be pigeon holed into some stereo type, and frankly i am not well off enough to alienate theists.
"i hate therefore i am"
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