(August 21, 2016 at 4:26 pm)Stimbo Wrote:I celebrate the burden of proof. I have laid out a fair amount of evidence for what I claim in several other threads and there is much more where that came from. I do not need the corroboration of multiple creation stories from multiple cultures across time to support what I have found by pure geometry. But it's nice to notice consistent and repeated trends.(August 21, 2016 at 3:55 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: You are free to form you own paradigm and toss out what the majority of humanity has believed (and explored) since the beginning.
Argumentum ad populum doesn't make your fantasy work. Neither does abdicating your burden of proof.
(August 21, 2016 at 3:55 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: You are free to suffer the consequences of your willful ignorance.
And nor does argumentum ad hominem. Oh, and please knock off with the clichés. We've all heard enough of them to sink a battleship.
(August 21, 2016 at 3:55 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: I have had my own NDE (drowning) where I popped out of body and had the time-space to fully consider leaving or staying. I was more conscious in that state, more aware than while in the body. I don't need you to believe me,
Well, that's handy.
(August 21, 2016 at 3:55 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: but to understand I'm not coming from a position of wishful belief of what I want to be true. I experienced it.
Are you able, with any honesty, to know if this experience you claim is what led to your beliefs, or if it was vice-versa and your beliefs - or at least prior knowledge - coloured your expectation of the experience?
Either way, personal testimony of unsupportable events from a single source of questionable reliability doesn't exactly make for a compelling reason for others to accept it. If that's all you have, we're pretty much done.
Ignorance is the act of ignoring something, the act speaks for itself. If you take that as a personal insult, oh well. It's no more an ad hominem than warning some one if they ignore the cliff they are walking toward and disbelieve gravity...they will suffer the consequence of their ignore-ance.
That experience shattered many of my previous beliefs....especially about myself. I got to experience Self without the filter of my birth personality, locked up in the specific paths my neurons have fired and wired for over my life time. It was like my life was the dream, and I was actually awake for the first time in a very long time. I was no longer occluded by anything I had collected or created in the body. There was a bit more to the experience, but that was the core.
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder