(May 16, 2011 at 12:22 pm)Rayaan Wrote: These punishments are justified to myself even though I may not be able to justify them to you and the atheists because your faith is not present in the first place. Therefore, it seems almost impossible for me to make these ideas fit together according to your own ethical perspective. What is more important is to look at it from a spiritual perspective, which deals with the sins of our private body parts, how the sin can affect others, what it does to the human soul, how to erase them, how to eliminate them, etc.
Interesting that you have to have faith to justify punishment. Which of course is ironic since those without faith end up being punished by your god.
You go on to say that Islam's ideas of punishment cannot fit into my own ethical perspective. Are you implying that a Deist such as myself has lower ethics than you, a muslim man? I don't stone people or cut their hands off and I don't condone those that do. I would argue that I my ethical values are far higher than the practitioners of Islam.
You then place great emphasis on the sins of "our private body parts". As if fornication and/or adultery is somehow worse than throwing acid in a woman's face or burning your children because they talked-back. What is it with muslims and sex? There is story after story (and I will provide links if you wish) of muslim men raping women all over the news. Not just the christian women that your religion winks about and looks the other way, but muslim women as well.
But no sooner has someone pointed out your barbaric punishments and every muslim man is screaming about how sexual sins are ruining their peaceful and civilized society. Thereby justifying some disgusting blood-thirsty unwarranted inhumane punishment - doled out by men in masks I might add.
It's insulting to ask anyone to swallow such massive amounts of irrational stupidity, but as irrational as it is, it's still infinitely more perplexing to know that an intelligent man who has a wealth of knowledge at his fingertips chooses to not only condone, but DEFEND the grotesque behavior of documented & bonafide hypocrits.