(May 18, 2011 at 5:31 am)fr0d0 Wrote: You seem to be saying that God set that up GS, rather than commented on it/ communicated at the time what was wrong with it.
I agree about a perfect system. But what we think of as perfect is our ways just like those ancient people thought of their ways. In every system we can refer to an ideal, which always tops what people have set up, because selfish interest sadly always figures.
Still, with the bible supposedly being the perfect moral guide, the question still remains if people would accept unvoluntary slavery as good. Whether god set up the slavery system or not is nor important - the bible is supposedly created by inspiration delivered by him (which should be the reason why it is perfect). No one could bother to write 'hey, keeping slaves isn't all that cool, actually'?
The slave thing is just an example I used to set up this debate by the way. There are a number of other rules and practices laid out in the bible that are iffy.
Of course, one can say 'well the way you think about it now is the spirit of this time'. However, if we are to accept the bible as the moral truth, the current time spirit should be transformed into...well yeah...a system where women have no rights whatsoever, gay people are stoned, and slavery is great.
Have a look in Saudi Arabia. I don't like that as a place to live. I think if we'd use 'bible morals', our countries would become much like it.
When I was a Christian, I was annoyed with dogmatic condescending Christians. Now that I'm an atheist, I'm annoyed with dogmatic condescending atheists. Just goes to prove that people are the same, regardless of what they do or don't believe.
