Reasons

[Kyuuketsuki]

I think atheists are more objective that theist like you yes and, guess what, 7 votes in and everyone who has voted reckons Catholics are Christians so let's just drop it eh? Whether you believe it to be so or not, Catholics are as Christian as any other Christian cult.

What a pile of crock. If we're courting opinion exclusively from those who can't know, then the possibilities are endless. C'mon Kyu you can do better than this.

As opposed to the opinion of those with an agenda? I don't think so ... I think those removed from the specific arena in question are far better qualified to judge the objective merits of something.

Not here they don't ... I don't believe any rationalist here (apart form theists) "gets" the idea that lack of evidence can be positive for a claim.

Yes they do Kyu.

No they don't Frodo.

No, I didn't!

*sighs*

Yawns!

Yet you apparently maintain that that lack of evidence is somehow a positive evidence for your deity ... THAT is what I have a problem with. If it's just faith, no problem (I disagree but no issue) but you somehow twist that to say that is exactly what is expected and implicitly claim it's positive evidence for your god.

I don't maintain that it's positive evidence of my deity at all! What nonsense! Have you listened to yourself lately? Lack of empirical evidence supports what the Bible says, and what I believe to be true about empirical evidence.

You see? That's EXACTLY what I mean ... you are saying that no evidence is what we should expect THEREFORE (implicitly) you are claiming a lack of evidence as a positive proof! It's offensive on every intellectual level I can consider.

[Now please explain to me how that proves in the slightest that God exists. Or how I say anywhere that it does.

See above.

[All it debunks is the mindless assertion that empirical evidence is required to prove Gods existence when talking about Christian faith.

No, the implications go far beyond that.

Kyu