(September 8, 2016 at 5:40 am)Tazzycorn Wrote:(August 16, 2016 at 1:00 am)PETE_ROSE Wrote: Could a being such as this that exists outside of our space-time, not merely be an observer to the events? To say that free wil does not exist within that system seems a bit of wishful thinking to claim denial of choice or a stretch at least. It is obvious why many would like to make this claim. We at least have the appearance of free will in this reality.
Merely knowing the events that will take place seems a far cry from total lack of free will and predestination in its entirety.
You see, if free will exists then god cannot know everything, because in order to know everything he needs to know what will happen in the future. Us having free will limits gods knowledge of tbe future because with free will our choices are indeterminate ahead of time.
The future does not exist. There is only the trajectory of change of the present. Knowledge of what does not exist does not negate knowledge of all that actually, currently does exist in the manner and movement it exists in. The knowledge of the future is not required to be "all knowing"
"The future" is a construct imagined by us.
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder