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God is an atheist
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RE: God is an atheist
(September 8, 2016 at 8:53 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:
(September 8, 2016 at 5:40 am)Tazzycorn Wrote: You see, if free will exists then god cannot know everything, because in order to know everything he needs to know what will happen in the future. Us having free will limits gods knowledge of tbe future because with free will our choices are indeterminate ahead of time.

The future does not exist.  There is only the trajectory of change of the present.  Knowledge of what does not exist does not negate knowledge of all that actually, currently does exist in the manner and movement it exists in. The knowledge of the future is not required to be "all knowing"

"The future" is a construct imagined by us.

If god knows everything, the universe is deterministic, meaning that while the future has not appened, it is possible with sufficient knowledge of prior events and computing power (both of which an omniscient god would have) perfect predictions of the future can be made.

If the universe is non-deterministic, then an omniscient god is impossible, as he cannot know the random elements which make the future indeterminate.

Did you think, that like you with electromagnetism working differently before humanity discovered its workings, that I haven't run through my idea before making it public. There possibly are ways to refute it, but throwing out a basic misunderstanding of indeterminate processes isn't one.
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God is an atheist - by rado84 - August 15, 2016 at 3:19 pm
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RE: God is an atheist - by rado84 - August 15, 2016 at 3:38 pm
RE: God is an atheist - by Excited Penguin - August 15, 2016 at 3:39 pm
RE: God is an atheist - by Arkilogue - August 15, 2016 at 3:44 pm
RE: God is an atheist - by Chad32 - August 15, 2016 at 4:28 pm
RE: God is an atheist - by Arkilogue - August 15, 2016 at 4:29 pm
RE: God is an atheist - by Chad32 - August 15, 2016 at 4:30 pm
RE: God is an atheist - by Arkilogue - August 15, 2016 at 4:32 pm
RE: God is an atheist - by Chad32 - August 15, 2016 at 4:36 pm
RE: God is an atheist - by Arkilogue - August 15, 2016 at 4:43 pm
RE: God is an atheist - by Grandizer - August 15, 2016 at 7:09 pm
RE: God is an atheist - by rado84 - August 16, 2016 at 2:53 am
RE: God is an atheist - by LastPoet - August 15, 2016 at 4:37 pm
RE: God is an atheist - by Chad32 - August 15, 2016 at 5:22 pm
RE: God is an atheist - by Arkilogue - August 15, 2016 at 5:28 pm
RE: God is an atheist - by Angrboda - August 15, 2016 at 6:40 pm
RE: God is an atheist - by bennyboy - August 15, 2016 at 7:02 pm
RE: God is an atheist - by brewer - August 15, 2016 at 11:01 pm
RE: God is an atheist - by PETE_ROSE - August 16, 2016 at 1:00 am
RE: God is an atheist - by Pat Mustard - September 8, 2016 at 5:40 am
RE: God is an atheist - by Arkilogue - September 8, 2016 at 8:53 pm
RE: God is an atheist - by Pat Mustard - September 9, 2016 at 4:07 am
RE: God is an atheist - by Arkilogue - September 9, 2016 at 2:06 pm
RE: God is an atheist - by ErikB - August 19, 2016 at 11:37 am
RE: God is an atheist - by robvalue - August 20, 2016 at 7:53 am
RE: God is an atheist - by ErikB - August 23, 2016 at 10:20 am
RE: God is an atheist - by rado84 - August 20, 2016 at 8:53 am
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