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Victim Blaming?
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RE: Victim Blaming?
(September 18, 2016 at 11:07 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:
(September 18, 2016 at 10:47 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: I understand both sides of the argument.

Females shouldn't have to worry about doing something, like drinking, or dressing in a certain way, or partying with strangers, lest they get raped. They shouldn't and it's unfair. And it can be hard for some males to relate to this, case in point with Ark there.

But it is a reality. Rape happens a lot. We have to deal with it to the best of our abilities.
Life is neither fair nor nice. Most living things have to fight tooth and nail or fly away to remain living in the natural environment.

I'm saying trying to blame either party gets in the way of actually being able to prepare for and deal with the situation if it happens. It's completely beside the point of rational self protection....which starts with being able to remain conscious and in good control of all your facilities.

I completely agree, but that's only because I don't believe in free will, so there's no point in assigning blame to anyone for anything, ever, in my mind. This is not just about rape. Your approach is objective and concerned with dealing with the problem rather than lingering on who's at fault for doing what. I understand that, other people don't though. Either try to get better across to those who don't, or suffer the consequences of being misunderstood. I did for a long time. I advice against doing nothing about it.

Sometimes expressing a point you know will not go well is not the best idea. It's not about being right all the time. It's also about knowing your conversational partners.
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Victim Blaming? - by BrokenQuill92 - September 18, 2016 at 7:42 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by vorlon13 - September 18, 2016 at 7:47 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 8:09 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Joods - September 18, 2016 at 8:26 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by BrokenQuill92 - September 18, 2016 at 8:30 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by rexbeccarox - September 18, 2016 at 8:46 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 9:04 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Joods - September 18, 2016 at 8:34 pm
Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 18, 2016 at 8:48 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Tartarus Sauce - September 18, 2016 at 8:52 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 9:05 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 18, 2016 at 9:05 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 9:07 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 18, 2016 at 9:09 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 9:15 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 18, 2016 at 9:20 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 9:45 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Excited Penguin - September 18, 2016 at 10:28 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 18, 2016 at 10:50 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 11:08 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by paulpablo - September 18, 2016 at 9:19 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 18, 2016 at 9:28 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Joods - September 18, 2016 at 10:31 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 18, 2016 at 9:07 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 9:10 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 18, 2016 at 9:16 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 18, 2016 at 9:10 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by RobertE - September 19, 2016 at 12:37 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by paulpablo - September 18, 2016 at 9:13 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 9:20 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 18, 2016 at 9:22 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 9:50 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 10:08 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 18, 2016 at 10:15 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 10:36 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 18, 2016 at 10:19 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 10:46 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Faith No More - September 19, 2016 at 11:59 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by The Grand Nudger - September 18, 2016 at 10:26 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by The Grand Nudger - September 18, 2016 at 10:39 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 18, 2016 at 10:54 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 18, 2016 at 10:45 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Excited Penguin - September 18, 2016 at 10:47 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 11:07 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Excited Penguin - September 18, 2016 at 11:11 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 19, 2016 at 12:03 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by vorlon13 - September 18, 2016 at 10:51 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 18, 2016 at 10:52 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Excited Penguin - September 18, 2016 at 10:54 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 18, 2016 at 10:59 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 18, 2016 at 10:53 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by BrokenQuill92 - September 18, 2016 at 11:57 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by account_inactive - September 19, 2016 at 12:29 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by BrokenQuill92 - September 19, 2016 at 12:41 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by account_inactive - September 19, 2016 at 12:43 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 19, 2016 at 1:56 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 19, 2016 at 4:05 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 19, 2016 at 4:36 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 19, 2016 at 5:09 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by BrokenQuill92 - September 19, 2016 at 12:00 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 19, 2016 at 12:02 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 19, 2016 at 1:54 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 19, 2016 at 3:55 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 19, 2016 at 4:21 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 19, 2016 at 4:31 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 19, 2016 at 5:00 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 19, 2016 at 5:16 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 19, 2016 at 12:39 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by account_inactive - September 19, 2016 at 12:44 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by BrokenQuill92 - September 19, 2016 at 12:44 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Regina - September 19, 2016 at 4:44 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 19, 2016 at 5:23 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by account_inactive - September 19, 2016 at 5:57 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 19, 2016 at 5:59 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by account_inactive - September 19, 2016 at 6:03 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Faith No More - September 19, 2016 at 12:03 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by account_inactive - September 19, 2016 at 12:24 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Jello - September 19, 2016 at 1:13 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by RozKek - September 20, 2016 at 11:30 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 19, 2016 at 5:54 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 19, 2016 at 6:07 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Ben Davis - September 19, 2016 at 6:28 am
Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 19, 2016 at 9:07 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 19, 2016 at 11:19 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 19, 2016 at 1:27 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 19, 2016 at 9:10 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 19, 2016 at 10:00 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 20, 2016 at 7:08 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 20, 2016 at 10:19 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 20, 2016 at 10:30 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 21, 2016 at 12:05 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by The Grand Nudger - September 19, 2016 at 12:36 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by account_inactive - September 19, 2016 at 1:24 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by account_inactive - September 19, 2016 at 1:28 pm
Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 19, 2016 at 10:42 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 19, 2016 at 11:04 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Tiberius - September 20, 2016 at 11:45 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 20, 2016 at 10:19 pm
Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 20, 2016 at 1:17 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Excited Penguin - September 20, 2016 at 1:22 pm
Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 20, 2016 at 1:24 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 20, 2016 at 2:08 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 20, 2016 at 2:49 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Excited Penguin - September 20, 2016 at 4:15 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Excited Penguin - September 20, 2016 at 6:06 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Excited Penguin - September 20, 2016 at 3:33 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 20, 2016 at 3:39 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 20, 2016 at 10:37 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Excited Penguin - September 21, 2016 at 4:50 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 20, 2016 at 10:19 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Edwardo Piet - September 21, 2016 at 3:51 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 21, 2016 at 4:08 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Tiberius - September 20, 2016 at 2:55 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Excited Penguin - September 20, 2016 at 3:26 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Edwardo Piet - September 20, 2016 at 3:34 pm
Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 20, 2016 at 6:10 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Tiberius - September 20, 2016 at 8:38 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by account_inactive - September 20, 2016 at 8:40 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 20, 2016 at 8:41 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Edwardo Piet - September 21, 2016 at 3:46 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Tiberius - September 20, 2016 at 8:49 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by account_inactive - September 20, 2016 at 8:53 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Tiberius - September 20, 2016 at 9:49 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by account_inactive - September 20, 2016 at 9:55 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by rexbeccarox - September 20, 2016 at 10:35 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by account_inactive - September 20, 2016 at 10:43 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Fidel_Castronaut - October 1, 2016 at 11:31 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by RobertE - October 1, 2016 at 4:04 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Tiberius - September 20, 2016 at 8:50 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Tiberius - September 20, 2016 at 10:29 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by account_inactive - September 20, 2016 at 10:31 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Tiberius - September 20, 2016 at 10:42 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Jackalope - September 20, 2016 at 10:58 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 20, 2016 at 11:51 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Edwardo Piet - September 21, 2016 at 4:10 am
Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 21, 2016 at 8:05 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by J a c k - September 21, 2016 at 8:11 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Seraphina - September 21, 2016 at 8:57 pm
Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 21, 2016 at 9:11 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Lek - September 23, 2016 at 7:11 pm
Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 23, 2016 at 7:49 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by The Grand Nudger - October 1, 2016 at 3:40 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Excited Penguin - October 1, 2016 at 7:30 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Catholic_Lady - October 1, 2016 at 11:35 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Whateverist - October 1, 2016 at 11:40 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Jackalope - October 1, 2016 at 12:40 pm
Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - October 1, 2016 at 4:05 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by The Grand Nudger - October 2, 2016 at 7:19 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - October 2, 2016 at 7:36 pm
Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - October 4, 2016 at 7:57 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by The Grand Nudger - October 4, 2016 at 10:42 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Sal - October 4, 2016 at 12:30 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Lek - October 4, 2016 at 4:19 pm

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