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Photon "reference frame" and determinism
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Photon "reference frame" and determinism
I know that it's said that there's no real reference frame for a photon.  But let's pretend there is one, and allow that no time passes for a photon, ever, from its emission to its absorption.  What would this mean?  I think it would mean:

1)  Anything you do with any light experiment DOESN'T actually change anything, since in its frame of reference the photon arrives at its destination at the same time as it departs.  In fact, you could say that the photon does exist at all in its frame of reference-- rather, it is a bringing together of points, i.e. a bypassing of space and time to establish a relationship between say a star and the surface of some distant asteroid.

2)  Determinism is necessarily true.  The timelessness of a photon means that for sure, 100%, it is going to arrive wherever it arrives, and this is already "known" when it is emitted.  In other words, even if you fired a photon from the moon to the sun, and randomly interfered/didn't interfere with its path, it was already going to land either on the earth OR the randomly-interfering device, even if you didn't yet know what the randomly-interfering device was going to do.

3) If (1) and (2) are true, then time is, after all, a dimension.

Question: it's the inevitable /0 that causes scientists to say there's no frame of reference for a photon, right?




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Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by bennyboy - September 20, 2016 at 11:49 pm
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by Rayaan - September 21, 2016 at 8:27 pm
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by bennyboy - September 22, 2016 at 10:40 am
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by Alex K - September 22, 2016 at 2:54 pm
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by wiploc - September 22, 2016 at 6:04 pm
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by bennyboy - September 23, 2016 at 7:08 pm
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by wiploc - September 23, 2016 at 11:46 pm
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by bennyboy - September 23, 2016 at 11:52 pm
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by wiploc - September 24, 2016 at 10:06 pm
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by bennyboy - September 25, 2016 at 12:01 am
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by wiploc - September 25, 2016 at 12:48 am
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by bennyboy - September 25, 2016 at 12:54 pm
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by Alex K - September 25, 2016 at 3:55 pm
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by InquiringMind - September 25, 2016 at 1:03 am
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by bennyboy - September 25, 2016 at 12:52 pm
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by LastPoet - September 25, 2016 at 5:08 pm
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by bennyboy - September 26, 2016 at 12:42 am



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