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Photon "reference frame" and determinism
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RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism
(September 23, 2016 at 11:46 pm)wiploc Wrote:
(September 23, 2016 at 7:08 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Because it's moving at the speed of light.  I'm pretty sure as Alex said, that it's just considered "broken" because of a /0.  But while I'm pretty poor at math, it seems to me that you can see that the limit of things moving closer to the speed of light is that the passage of time is approaching a zero rate.  The same goes for stuff stuck in a black hole, no?  That they are essentially frozen in time relative to our perspective?  [Emphasis added.]

If X moves at nearly the speed of light relative to you, then it will look to you like time almost stops for X. 

But X's time will seem normal to X.  To X, it will seem like your time nearly stopped. 

So, to a photon (if we're going to ignore the division by zero) times stops for you, not for the photon.

You are forgetting spatial dilation.  The apparent distance of the sun from which the photon is transmitted and the atom which receives the photon is zero in the photon's (hypothetical and kind of broken) frame of reference.
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Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by bennyboy - September 20, 2016 at 11:49 pm
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by Rayaan - September 21, 2016 at 8:27 pm
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by bennyboy - September 22, 2016 at 10:40 am
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by Alex K - September 22, 2016 at 2:54 pm
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by wiploc - September 22, 2016 at 6:04 pm
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by bennyboy - September 23, 2016 at 7:08 pm
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by wiploc - September 23, 2016 at 11:46 pm
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by bennyboy - September 23, 2016 at 11:52 pm
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by wiploc - September 24, 2016 at 10:06 pm
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by bennyboy - September 25, 2016 at 12:01 am
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by wiploc - September 25, 2016 at 12:48 am
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by bennyboy - September 25, 2016 at 12:54 pm
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by Alex K - September 25, 2016 at 3:55 pm
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by InquiringMind - September 25, 2016 at 1:03 am
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by bennyboy - September 25, 2016 at 12:52 pm
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by LastPoet - September 25, 2016 at 5:08 pm
RE: Photon "reference frame" and determinism - by bennyboy - September 26, 2016 at 12:42 am



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