(May 25, 2011 at 5:09 pm)Emanuel Wrote: If you look at this from the Christian perspective, Jesus would be the perfect King. He cares about the people (died for them), he's merciful, he's infinitely rich (has and made everything), he's 'infinitely' wise so He'd make the best decision in each case. So for what reason would you not want a perfect king? Unless you have another definition for perfect. In that case, I would like hearing it if you agree sharing it to us.
And why is do you call Him a tyrant? Such an accusation deserves justification.
Examples of Jesus caring about the people:
Matthew 15:21-26 (Jesus refuses to help a Canaanite woman until she calls herself a "dog")
Mark 4:11-12 (Jesus makes it clear that only the elect will be saved and the rest he deliberately confuses so they will be condemned to Hell)
Mark 14:6 (Jesus says screw the poor, let me have that fine ointmnent)
Luke 12:49 (Jesus pledges to bring fire to the earth and longs for it to happen)
Luke 19:27 (Jesus tells a parable where a king, symbolic of himself, announces that he will kill any who don't wish to be ruled by him)
Examples of Jesus' mercy
Jesus curses a fig tree for not bearing him figs (Mark 11:14). This is interpreted to be a curse on the Jews.
Jesus curses a city to a fate worse than Soddom if they will not receive his disciples (Mark 6:11)
Jesus promises a day like the day of Noah's flood when he returns (Matthew 24:37)
Jesus will burn all who do not follow him, inspiring the practice of burning heretics at the stake (John 15:6)
Jesus "wisdom" is also overrated. I would need to recite all four Gospels to do this topic justice. He proposed self-mutilation for salvation, believed faith could order mountains into the sea or bring back the dead, believed in the silly stories of Noah and Adam, thought the stars would fall from the sky in the end times, preached such extreme pacifism that would be the death of any country that practiced it, thought that demons caused illness, etc.
If Christianity is to be believed, Jesus watched all the inquisitions, witch-burnings, crusades, and all manner of other cruelties done in his name and has done nothing to stop any of it. In any international court of law, he would be charged with war crimes for the actions of his followers.
If Jesus were real, he would be the least fit to stand in any judgment of anyone. He should beg our forgiveness, not the other way around.
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
