(September 28, 2016 at 8:18 am)Firefighter01 Wrote: Really? Haven't you seen these?
Acts 28:8
And it happened that the father of Publius was lying in bed afflicted with recurrent fever and dysentery; and Paul went in to see him and after he had prayed, he laid his hands on him and healed him.
Acts 14:8-11
8 At Lystra a man was sitting who had no strength in his feet, lame from his mother's womb, who had never walked.
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9 This man was listening to Paul as he spoke, who, when he had fixed his gaze on him and had seen that he had faith to be made well,
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10 said with a loud voice, "Stand upright on your feet." And he leaped up and began to walk.
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11 When the crowds saw what Paul had done, they raised their voice, saying in the Lycaonian language, "The gods have become like men and have come down to us."
He also performed exorcisms, raised a boy who had fallen from the dead in Acts 20 and somehow survived a stoning at Lystra. The stones must have been pebbles as he fucked off out of town the next day unharmed.
Yes really. That's Acts. Paul.himself.never.makes.any.claims.that.he.healed.anyone. You are getting really frustrating to talk to. Either you have no idea what you are saying, or you are just deliberately acting like a fucking jerk. Which is it?
(September 28, 2016 at 8:18 am)Firefighter01 Wrote: Uh yes we are. It's what this thread is about and you just finished saying that Pythagoras Mythicisim is in fact very similar to Jesus Mythicisim. Jesus is a tad different from Pythagorus because of what I just mentioned.
No, we're just talking about the historicity of Jesus - not the divinity of Jesus.
(September 28, 2016 at 8:18 am)Firefighter01 Wrote: I'm not making the claims about their historicity, YOU are. I'm just not convinced because of the lack of evidence and the evidence that is presented is just so piss poor. As I've said previously, historians whose livelihoods and careers are dependent upon Jesus being a historical person are tainted and therefore biased. Jesus & Paul being exposed as myths means nothing to me, but that knowledge is kryptonite to Christians. There's no secular evidence of either and the best possible witness would have been Philo of Alexandria, but he like Paul, only knew of Jesus as a spirit. I don't think that he even mentions Paul, even though he would have been a contemporary. Capping it all off is the presence of all the mystery cults of the same area and time with their own savior gods.
I can't say with certitude that either the Jesus of the Bible nor the Apostle Paul ever existed and neither can you, sport.
And I can't say that the earth wasn't created by Jehovah in 6 days roughly 6000 years ago, and neither can you.
(September 28, 2016 at 8:18 am)Firefighter01 Wrote: See above. You still believe hook, line and sinker what has been presented to you as the Christian truth probably since you were a little boy. If they didn't exist then the majority opinion is wrong. You don't need a majority to make it the truth. After all, the vast majority of the world imagines that gods and ghosts exist.
Again, I put it to you that you have no idea what you are talking about.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke