(September 29, 2016 at 4:32 pm)Tangra Wrote:(September 29, 2016 at 4:26 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Yes, we know.....because, apparently, a dead body isn't still us. Meanwhile, in the real world, they very much appear to be the same. I saw my dad on a slab years ago. It was my dad. I don't know what else to tell you.
I am sorry for your loss. I personally haven't lost anyone very close to me.
Rhythm, I'm trying to illustrate a point, other than we are not the body. We are who we are. You are the person who is your father's son. You know your father better than anyone, probably. Your father is much more than 100kg of flesh and bone on a slab. We all are meatbags so to speak, we know that, but then what? Ending the conversation and the point where we are biological creatures with biological functions inhibits real research. The experience of life is not a biology text book.
All the persons I've ever met were living meat bags. All the dead persons I've encountered were just rotting meat bags. Have you yourself encountered a person not associated with his or her own meat bag? Because I haven't.
This sort of attempt at suggesting that meatbags are extraneous to the person experience has never really gotten off the ground here. I can only imagine you're trying to make room for an immortal soul. What you believe is entirely up to you but I haven't heard any rational argument for anyone agreeing with that who isn't already motivated to find room for the same. Backward looking rationalizations aren't enough to push the cart forward for the rest of us.
