Occams Hatchet and Is Materialism "Special"

[bennyboy]

-The- science, don't do it, don't go full on troll.  This, like so many other things before it, you know damned well.  You know it exists, you call it non-science.  You -repeatedly- call it non science.  You're doing it right now.  Own it.  I;m not sure that you;'re qualified to tell me what science can and can't study.   That seems like a grand claim.  Meanwhile, it sure as hell looks like we can study it, and it's producing some awfully interesting results what with being pure accident and all.

I can keep repeating myself. It's a fun game to play, my 4 year-old son seems to like it.

I'm not against science. I'm not against science of brain, or behavioral science. What I am against is the conflation of assumption with assertion. Upon taking the philosophical position that all is material, it's not surprising that you'd wave toward the brain, or that you'd call it material, or that you'd think anything in our experience must be explained in material terms.

Even that's fine. However, in your insistence that all things are material, you are stuck with the problem of mind. It cannot be physically measured, nor inferred from any physical properties of any system unless you already believe those things to have mind. Given that 100% of things we think we know, or perceive, or interact with in any way, are done so only through the agency of subjective minds, that's a pretty big assumption.

In essence, you are using your subjective agency to infer its own nature. I'm pretty sure obvious circular logic is not one of the tenets of good scientific procedure. So if you want to claim that in arguing against you, I'm against science, then please be so kind as to demonstrate that your position represents scientific views, and mind does not.