(October 3, 2016 at 4:40 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Well, for starters, god isn't the meek, "oh, golly, I hope one of my kids calls me on my birthday" parent sitting on the sidelines you try to portray him as. He's a tyrant. The entire OT is evidence of that.
"But, he totally mellowed out during the NT!" Really? So, that's why he made a son for the explicit purpose of him getting tortured and killed via crucifixion?
Sorry, but that's BS.
Original sin is a dumb, immoral concept. Vicarious redemption through blood sacrifice is a dumb, immoral concept. Giving people free will, but then punishing them for exercising that free will (in addition to whatever consequences they may face for their actions on earth) is a dumb, immoral concept. Creating a one-size-fits-all punishment of eternal fire and torment for finite crimes is a dumb, immoral concept.
No matter how you try to put lipstick on it, your god is a terrible, terrible being. Thankfully for everyone, it doesn't exist.
Nah he isn't a tyrant.
He asked Abraham to give his son as a sacrifice and right before he did, God stopped him and told him to use a lamb in the bush instead. God just needed to know that if that was what it came to Abraham would give his only son who meant the world to him. This allowed God to make a covenant and Give his only son to be perfect and suffer through torture and three days in hell to pay for everyone's sins so they didn't have to make blood sacrifices anymore and the holy spirit could live inside of us.
original sin is the fact that we are a self centered species. You can see that in the fact that a baby's first words are "mine" and they only love you because you give them things and keep their belly full. Which is natural but God gives deliverance from that.
blood sacrifice was dumb thats why we stopped doing it
giving people free will because you love them and forcing them to love you back isn't love
you walk yourself into hell he doesnt punish you by putting you there. hell is simply a place where he is not.
sin isn't really relevant to why you go to hell. you go to hell for not loving him because why would he want to spend eternity with someone that doesnt love him back. you just simply go to a place where he is not. Since he is love and everything good and hell is the opposite then i guess its not the most pleasant place.
Thank God I am his
