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Classical Liberalism
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RE: Classical Liberalism
(April 7, 2011 at 7:50 am)theVOID Wrote:


If those are your principles, then I'm curios more about "tolerance" and "freedom of speech" and the "freedom of the individual":
1. Freedom of speech:
How does it conform with instigation to hatred (e.g. vs a particular group), or deceiving (e.g. end of the world in 21st may, perhaps give me money and you'll go to heaven), manipulation of the masses (through false history, twisted news to fit a desired effect ,etc.), dirty words (in public places, perhaps hearing the president/king talking with his fellows stuff like "I don't give a shit about your crap, ya bitches!", now "bitches" being used to male men, whom they are used with such words, and don't find it as an insult).

2. Freedom of the individual:
How far should it go? For instance, if some women go in the park (which is with, well, a lot of people) and get naked and get on their knees, with their elbows on the ground, and their own dogs start to fuck them, should this freedom be allowed to them? If you say "as long as my freedom does not do evil to somebody", then, in this particular case, perhaps the only thing would be that most people don't like doing such things, and therefore, don't like seeing such things. And if you go further and deny any freedom of man that the majority does not like, how is this different than forcing all to be as the main group is? (which is, against the freedom of the individual)

3. Tolerance:
"it is not our business to tell them how to think and feel": you mean it is evil to say to people "be nice people! try to be good! do good!"? And, how does the education of the society go if no-one is allowed to tell them (e.g. in schools) how to think and how to feel?
"Because you think something is a good thing, the right thing, is no reason to interfere with the actions of others. " - so you mean that it is wrong to say "what you do is evil"? You know, it may have a good effect sometimes, like convincing/helping somebody to be a better person.
"it is immoral to force your opinions on others" - so, if you could establish a rule/law, you would never say "we should not allow anybody naked in the park being fucked in his ass by his own dogs"? Because, that is your opinion: there may be others that see things differently, though only a few.
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Messages In This Thread
Classical Liberalism - by theVOID - April 7, 2011 at 7:50 am
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Violet - April 7, 2011 at 5:09 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Minimalist - April 7, 2011 at 6:43 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by theVOID - April 7, 2011 at 7:47 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Violet - April 8, 2011 at 1:12 am
RE: Classical Liberalism - by theVOID - April 8, 2011 at 1:19 am
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Violet - April 8, 2011 at 1:43 am
RE: Classical Liberalism - by theVOID - April 8, 2011 at 3:32 am
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Violet - April 8, 2011 at 6:48 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by theVOID - April 8, 2011 at 9:49 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Violet - April 11, 2011 at 7:30 am
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Minimalist - April 8, 2011 at 1:41 am
RE: Classical Liberalism - by reverendjeremiah - April 8, 2011 at 2:50 am
RE: Classical Liberalism - by reverendjeremiah - April 8, 2011 at 6:22 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by theVOID - April 8, 2011 at 8:19 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Tiberius - April 8, 2011 at 8:58 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by reverendjeremiah - April 8, 2011 at 6:48 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Violet - April 8, 2011 at 7:08 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by theVOID - April 8, 2011 at 8:23 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by reverendjeremiah - April 8, 2011 at 7:29 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Violet - April 8, 2011 at 8:21 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by reverendjeremiah - April 8, 2011 at 8:50 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by reverendjeremiah - April 8, 2011 at 9:05 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by theVOID - April 8, 2011 at 10:55 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by reverendjeremiah - April 8, 2011 at 11:28 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Tiberius - April 9, 2011 at 10:53 am
RE: Classical Liberalism - by theVOID - April 11, 2011 at 10:57 am
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Violet - April 9, 2011 at 12:18 am
RE: Classical Liberalism - by HeyItsZeus - April 9, 2011 at 12:09 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by theVOID - April 12, 2011 at 2:49 am
RE: Classical Liberalism - by HeyItsZeus - April 13, 2011 at 10:56 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by reverendjeremiah - April 9, 2011 at 3:25 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Tiberius - April 9, 2011 at 4:12 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by HeyItsZeus - April 9, 2011 at 3:38 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by reverendjeremiah - April 9, 2011 at 3:51 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by HeyItsZeus - April 9, 2011 at 4:13 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by reverendjeremiah - April 9, 2011 at 7:12 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Dotard - April 9, 2011 at 7:45 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by reverendjeremiah - April 9, 2011 at 11:29 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Dotard - April 10, 2011 at 10:38 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by reverendjeremiah - April 11, 2011 at 2:56 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by theVOID - April 12, 2011 at 3:53 am
RE: Classical Liberalism - by reverendjeremiah - April 13, 2011 at 6:08 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by theVOID - April 13, 2011 at 10:14 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by HeyItsZeus - April 13, 2011 at 10:15 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by reverendjeremiah - April 13, 2011 at 10:53 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by reverendjeremiah - April 14, 2011 at 2:13 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Violet - April 15, 2011 at 2:48 am
RE: Classical Liberalism - by theVOID - April 15, 2011 at 4:35 am
RE: Classical Liberalism - by reverendjeremiah - April 16, 2011 at 1:18 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by LastPoet - April 17, 2011 at 1:39 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Zenith - May 28, 2011 at 9:36 am
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Violet - May 28, 2011 at 5:01 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Zenith - May 30, 2011 at 9:55 am
RE: Classical Liberalism - by reverendjeremiah - May 28, 2011 at 7:16 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Violet - May 30, 2011 at 3:04 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Violet - June 4, 2011 at 5:15 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Zenith - June 5, 2011 at 2:10 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Violet - June 5, 2011 at 3:38 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Zenith - June 8, 2011 at 2:58 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Epimethean - June 7, 2011 at 11:13 am
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Violet - June 7, 2011 at 2:12 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Epimethean - June 7, 2011 at 4:24 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Violet - June 7, 2011 at 4:49 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Epimethean - June 7, 2011 at 4:56 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Violet - June 7, 2011 at 10:33 pm
RE: Classical Liberalism - by Violet - June 8, 2011 at 4:27 pm



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