(October 4, 2016 at 7:22 pm)Rhythm Wrote: No you're not, lol, and I'm not interested in pretending that you are. There's no point in me presenting evidence, you'll call it non-science....for reasons that only you can fathom..which have escaped all of those researchers.
You should stop speaking for scientists. I'm pretty sure my objections have NOT "escaped all of those researchers," and that in fact before doing ANY science they will engage in a discussion of how they are choosing to define qualia, and why they are making that choice. Give me a scientific definition of qualia, as per any of the many scientific papers that must undoubtedly be out there, since you say there is such a robust science of mind.
See, I'm not as intellectually lazy as you seem to think I am. I made a sincere effort to fiend a scientific definition of qualia, and could not, at least not in the first couple pages of a Google search. In fact, almost all definitions I found were those by philosophers, one of whom I believe I linked earlier in this thread, and whom I attempted to invite to this forum but who so far has not answered my e-mail.
You need to follow through on some due process of your own. If you think your position is strong, that materialism is more than a philosophical choice, then bring some evidence. Support your position. Find any serious scientist who will even touch the issue of qualia with a 10-foot pole. Then we can move forward.
