(October 5, 2016 at 6:57 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I told you way back I wasn't interested in trolling myself. I'm trying to help you get past your mental logjam, not review the state of nueroscience today.Yeah, I know. Hand-waving, seen it before. You could wave at my brain in order to show that my text messages come from somewhere in there. You could also wave in the general direction of Korea with the same effect-- the confident knowledge that somewhere in there, somehow, text messages are getting formed. But this is not a good explanation for the existence of the text messages, is it?
You've been making many, many more assertions than that, and if you don;t realize that, then the problem is properly fucking basic, lol. In any case, the materialists position, on the only thing you actually goive a shit to dispute that position in regards to, is that brain accounts for mind.
Nah. . . you'd need some kind of mechanism to explain it.
Quote: Do you want to be the guy who stands there loudly, and repeatedly, demanding to be shown science to support this position, and implying that it does not exist - while simultaneously objecting to it in the specific as though it did, as though you were aware of that position, and it -did- exist?You've been resorting exclusively to metacommentary about me, my manner of engaging, etc. What you haven't been resorting to is proving your assertion with science, despite being such a champion of it.
Okay I'm going to make this easy on you. I'm not going to ask you to show me science about qualia. I'm going to go infinitely easier-- show me science that demonstrates the truth of your world view, since you claim it is a rational one, and NOT a philosophical assumption.