(May 29, 2011 at 10:37 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Hi FNM. Wouldn't the evidence of past and present societies disagree with you? And how do you reconcile that? I would agree with you apart from that.I believe that these societies were and are incorrect in their moral stances. I believe most morals are subjective, but when it comes to the inalienable rights of life, there is only right and wrong. Many offenses, such as genocide, have been 'morally justified' by the people committing them but that doesn't make them so. I place slavery in this category of offenses deemed justified by some, but in fact are immoral in any situation.
fr0d0 Wrote:And you think prisoners aren't treated fairly in prisons today?It depends on the situation. When Bush suspended habeas corpus for the Gitmo detainees that was definitely unfair. Generally, felons like murderers and rapists get what they deserve, but there are people locked up with them for things such as moderate drug offenses which I do not think is right. Then when you add in the fact that white collar criminals who take millions from others end up in prisons with tennis courts and cushy sells, I come to the conclusion that not all prisoners are treated fairly.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell