Occams Hatchet and Is Materialism "Special"

[bennyboy]

Remind me again, is materialism stuck at billiards balls or does it include too much of what we've discovered?

The moment that material stops meaning "stuff," or the moment that stuff stops meaning "things which can be located precisely in time and space, and which occupy a non-zero volume," then the meaning of matter begins to overlap with the meanings of mind, magic or even spirit. When you stop having good mechanical explanations of how the pieces work, it all starts to sound more like a systematic collection of miracles than a material explanation. If it soothes you to keep pretending that it's all a big machine, then go ahead.

No, just the weird shit you and others believe about qm.  Like, for example..it;s some sort of evidence that materialism is insufficient, despite being a materialists explanation in the first place, or that it suggests idealism...again by giving you a materialists explanation.  That, in short..... it rules in magic, or rules out matter.

Define material. Go ahead, I dare you to precisely define what it even means. My prediction is that you will need to use a catch all: "Material is whatever the stuff I experience is made of." I suspect that if we discovered we were in the Mind of God, you'd say, "That's fine, those ideas you're talking about. . . that's material."