(October 8, 2016 at 10:23 pm)Irrational Wrote:(October 8, 2016 at 9:42 pm)Whateverist Wrote: For the record I'd never have a son circumcised. Didn't even like snipping Smokey's nuts.
But in a world in which people are horrified by abortion but tolerate it in a civilized way, I'm willing to allow that the shoe may occasionally have to be on the other foot.
Again, abortion is a complicated matter. Even if we grant that fetuses are persons and/or have rights, abortion is not like circumcision where only the child is really affected by the decision of circumcision and no actual dilemma (i.e. conflict of rights) exists.
My son died at 23 weeks gestation. I can assure you he is/was a person.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
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