(October 9, 2016 at 12:52 am)Aroura Wrote:(October 8, 2016 at 9:42 pm)Whateverist Wrote: For the record I'd never have a son circumcised. Didn't even like snipping Smokey's nuts.Abortion is a terrible thing we allow because the consequences of restricting it are worse.
But in a world in which people are horrified by abortion but tolerate it in a civilized way, I'm willing to allow that the shoe may occasionally have to be on the other foot.
There are no terrible consequences to leaving a kidsmall sex organs intact. Though, initially circumcision practices began to prevent what less knowledgable folk though was disease caused by masterbation and premarital sex, a fair trade if true. Turns out it wasn't true. So harm is done for no real personal or societal benefit. That is the real argument being made.
Abortion is clearly harmful, no one argues that it isnt, but as a society we have judged the benefits to be greater than the harm.
In short, apples and oranges.
And as someone who has 'suffered' standard, Murican male genital mutilation .. it isn't so bad. I'm sure I didn't enjoy it when it happened but it doesn't bother me now and I've suffered no disappointment in its use in more than fifty years of sexual sport and practice. So I still maintain that male circumcision is an area where the law can reasonably permit tribal preferences to prevail. I'm not telling the jews they can't call in the mohel to initiate their newborn son and I'm not telling Cath-y she is wrong to do it to her male child if that is what she and her husband choose. I may wince, but I don't think how I feel about it is anything which should deter them from living life on their own terms.