(October 9, 2016 at 12:58 pm)Whateverist Wrote:Oh, I know. My hubby is also cut, and sex is plenty fun for him. I agree it seems a small amount of harm, at least if done where it is socially normal and many others are also cut.(October 9, 2016 at 12:52 am)Aroura Wrote: Abortion is a terrible thing we allow because the consequences of restricting it are worse.
There are no terrible consequences to leaving a kidsmall sex organs intact. Though, initially circumcision practices began to prevent what less knowledgable folk though was disease caused by masterbation and premarital sex, a fair trade if true. Turns out it wasn't true. So harm is done for no real personal or societal benefit. That is the real argument being made.
Abortion is clearly harmful, no one argues that it isnt, but as a society we have judged the benefits to be greater than the harm.
In short, apples and oranges.
And as someone who has 'suffered' standard, Murican male genital mutilation .. it isn't so bad. I'm sure I didn't enjoy it when it happened but it doesn't bother me now and I've suffered no disappointment in its use in more than fifty years of sexual sport and practice. So I still maintain that male circumcision is an area where the law can reasonably permit tribal preferences to prevail. I'm not telling the jews they can't call in the mohel to initiate their newborn son and I'm not telling Cath-y she is wrong to do it to her male child if that is what she and her husband choose. I may wince, but I don't think how I feel about it is anything which should deter them from living life on their own terms.
I'm just saying, there is no medical reason for doing it. I mean, there are all sorts of things we might do to kids that are just a little harmful, no big deal in the long run, but if there is no measurable benefit, why continue the practice? I don't think the goverment should legislate it, but I do advocate new parents educate themselves more, and not just make the choice because it was done to one of them. It is a declining practice, even in the US, and someday you might be putting your kid in the minority.
Plus, I'm not telling Cathy anything. She's great, but this discussion, this time, isn't about her. It's about circumcision in general. And we should feel free discuss it, as long as we aren't being rude or trying to shut others down.
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― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead
