Classical Liberalism

[Zenith]

Not an illusion... but as the state of no rules. It is simply false that we are granted 'freedom of speech' when what it does is deny us the freedom of speech. It is a restriction and nothing more. You will notice that the law does not give us the freedom to eat... and yet we are entirely free to do so.

There is a limit (that which is possible). There need be no legal limit placed upon speech and some number of other things they use 'freedom of' to restrict it.

Even with no laws, it should be clear that you will be jailed or slain for murdering someone without a good reason. Anarchy might claim no rule of law... but in reality: most laws are written in the minds of the lawmakers.

I meant something a bit different. Besides of the fact that I should have said "alone in the jungle" rather than simply "in the jungle" (that's because a society can exist in a jungle too).

You know, there are a lot of things you are not allowed to do (which is called, restricted freedom). As an extreme example we know that "if you kill, you will be punished". So, do you have the freedom to kill? No, It's prohibited! So you don't have the freedom to do what you want. (Don't understand me wrong, I don't want to kill anybody).

There are also more important things than that above: First off, there is the "spirit of the crowd" - i.e. every man has the strong tendency to behave and believe the same as the main group does (which goes against individualism) - the same way fashion works too. And what happens if somebody does not want to follow the crowd? He is regarded as an alien at best - the worst case is when he's surrounded by idiots - idiots are, by 'nature', intolerants.

Also, many times, for many persons - perhaps it also depends on the region you live in - you cannot manifest yourself the way you are, but only among friends - because there are idiots that listen carefully to what everyone is saying and everyone is doing and say it to all others, many even twisting how things are - and you don't desire somebody making you a bad reputation based on crap; there are also people that seek weak spots in others and try to exploit them, people that for no reason seek to do evil to others, people that have foolish reasons for hating you (many times, envy - even if the cause of envy is that you're doing fine and they don't) and therefore seek to do evil to you, and all kinds of things.

And the things get to be as the saying: "One must therefore be a fox to recognize traps, and a lion to frighten wolves."
That's a kind of... staying among potential enemies, people whose purpose in life is not necessarily (or, quite) to do good to everybody else and to treat nicely everybody and to help others, etc.

One also has the prohibition to speak his mind: many times you can't say to an imbecile: "You're an imbecile!" because he may do to you a lot of trouble afterwards (in real life, I'm not speaking about forums and stuff). And people love you if you agree with them (with what they believe, with what they say, with what they do) and dislike you (some even hate you) if you disagree with them (with what they believe, with what they say, with what they do). To a drunk man or a very angry man you cannot speak reason. To idiots you can't speak reason, either, because they despise it and are only attracted by mockery, basic needs, fashion and their idols (idols = people that they overly appreciate and see their words as divine words - of absolute truth and authority).

So where the HELL is the freedom of speech, if you must watch every word you say?

Where is tolerance, if the idiots hate anybody that is different than themselves (and as a result, they do not tolerate them)? If some people see thing X as evil and disgusting and other people see the same thing X as good and pleasant, how can there be tolerance among them? well, if all people were good-intended, nice, kind, and wise, there could be tolerance, or a resolution of how thing X really is, but most people are not so at all.

Where is the freedom of individual, if the society attempts to make people be in the same way (to believe the same things, to do the same things, etc.) and when the "spirit of the crowd" is pushing every individual to the main group, to be just like all the rest (where he loses his individualism)?