So, dear colleagues here, I have gone through all the posts since I was here last, and I have not found Jesster's response to my invitation for us two one on one to take up any issue she cares to take up with me, also including the charge from her that I am 'chickening out' from the issue I was into when she got to me whatever that issue was, according to her.
See my reproduction of my last post to her when I was here last time.
Anyway, there are several atheists reacting to my posts, but when one of you will link up with me to take up an issue you want to take up with me, please let me know; otherwise it is useless because the link is not pursued to completion, i.e. up to concurrence between us two, or on also if need be, concurrence that we have come to any impasse, and also with the concurrence that there is an impasse because both parties have their reasons and neither side would concede, so there is an impasse.
Dear atheists here, you will also say that you have no time to pursue the issue taken up, and that is just too bad; best then, next time let you make it a point that you will always have time even at a later session to continue with me, of course telling me that you will be unavailable until a certain date and time when you will take up with me as to resume our interaction - of course in the meantime you are still posting here, and I could be waiting forever and ever.
Anyway, let me see when an atheist will take up with me an issue he cares to take up with me, but then atheists will say that they don't have the burden to prove anything, etc., etc., etc.
But who is asking you to prove anything at all, because you don't have the burden to prove anything at all?
So, you see dear readers here, that is the unbridgeable chasm with me trying to get an atheist to please take up any issue with me and on the basis of truths, facts, and logic, and the history of ideas, between us two complete it.
At that point in the course of interacting, the atheist will have the urge or need whatever to tell me that I am into proselytizing him - there, no more interaction.
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
Yesterday, 11:17
Dear Jesster, you say: "We have nothing to prove in this topic."
May I just submit that you have to demonstrate that you think on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas, of course not in support of the claim God exists, but in support of your reasoning that God does not exist - that is not any burden at all, but it is what you owe yourself for having the use of reason and intelligence: for I submit that being an atheist is no exemption from thinking at all as to be without any rational grounding for taking up the identity of an atheist.
That is the positive part incumbent upon all atheist persons, namely, the keen concentration to examine any claim made by people with an idea to prove, in the present context that God in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning, exists in objective reality outside and independent of our mind.
Then also important, negatively to abstain from all kinds of distracting utterances, like all instances of flippancy, unwelcome remarks bordering on what might be called cuss language, and you know what I mean.
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See my reproduction of my last post to her when I was here last time.
Anyway, there are several atheists reacting to my posts, but when one of you will link up with me to take up an issue you want to take up with me, please let me know; otherwise it is useless because the link is not pursued to completion, i.e. up to concurrence between us two, or on also if need be, concurrence that we have come to any impasse, and also with the concurrence that there is an impasse because both parties have their reasons and neither side would concede, so there is an impasse.
Dear atheists here, you will also say that you have no time to pursue the issue taken up, and that is just too bad; best then, next time let you make it a point that you will always have time even at a later session to continue with me, of course telling me that you will be unavailable until a certain date and time when you will take up with me as to resume our interaction - of course in the meantime you are still posting here, and I could be waiting forever and ever.
Anyway, let me see when an atheist will take up with me an issue he cares to take up with me, but then atheists will say that they don't have the burden to prove anything, etc., etc., etc.
But who is asking you to prove anything at all, because you don't have the burden to prove anything at all?
So, you see dear readers here, that is the unbridgeable chasm with me trying to get an atheist to please take up any issue with me and on the basis of truths, facts, and logic, and the history of ideas, between us two complete it.
At that point in the course of interacting, the atheist will have the urge or need whatever to tell me that I am into proselytizing him - there, no more interaction.
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
Yesterday, 11:17
Dear Jesster, you say: "We have nothing to prove in this topic."
May I just submit that you have to demonstrate that you think on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas, of course not in support of the claim God exists, but in support of your reasoning that God does not exist - that is not any burden at all, but it is what you owe yourself for having the use of reason and intelligence: for I submit that being an atheist is no exemption from thinking at all as to be without any rational grounding for taking up the identity of an atheist.
That is the positive part incumbent upon all atheist persons, namely, the keen concentration to examine any claim made by people with an idea to prove, in the present context that God in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning, exists in objective reality outside and independent of our mind.
Then also important, negatively to abstain from all kinds of distracting utterances, like all instances of flippancy, unwelcome remarks bordering on what might be called cuss language, and you know what I mean.
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