You see, dear colleague LadyForCamus, please exert effort to discern that it is elementary, namely:
When we have not yet concurred on what it is to prove something, it is impossible for you, that there is proof already, with the one I have expounded on step by step in the OP, just click on Page 1, and you will come to the OP.
So no matter what proof I presented it is to you no proof - but from my part it is proof.
The difference however between me and you is that I have presented my proof in the OP, just click Page 1 and you will come to it; on your part however I want to see if ever you have presented a proof for the existence of something,
What about this proposition, below, prove to the readers and posters here that it is a true proposition:
Or think and write up the proof of something so simple like the existence of the nose in our face; I have done that, let you try your proof of the nose in our face to be existing, in another way.
Here is my proof for the nose in our face, I will reproduce it from my earlier post:
So, dear colleague LadyForCamus, it is the easiest thing to do in the world, saying no proof, no proof, no proof... but do you know what it is and how to prove something to exist in objective reality outside of concepts in our mind, and redact the proof in writing. step by step in clear simple concise and precise words?
When we have not yet concurred on what it is to prove something, it is impossible for you, that there is proof already, with the one I have expounded on step by step in the OP, just click on Page 1, and you will come to the OP.
So no matter what proof I presented it is to you no proof - but from my part it is proof.
The difference however between me and you is that I have presented my proof in the OP, just click Page 1 and you will come to it; on your part however I want to see if ever you have presented a proof for the existence of something,
What about this proposition, below, prove to the readers and posters here that it is a true proposition:
- The default status of things in the totality of reality or being is existence.
Or think and write up the proof of something so simple like the existence of the nose in our face; I have done that, let you try your proof of the nose in our face to be existing, in another way.
Here is my proof for the nose in our face, I will reproduce it from my earlier post:
- Mariosep #204 http://atheistforums.org/thread-45866-po...pid1426743 [See text in bold]. Dear colleagues here, I fear that this thread could be locked up when the posts here are getting into irrelevancies and flippancies. So, as Asmodee has not yet reported here, I will pursue my purpose here which is to get your comments on my proof for the existence of God. May I request that we all take up with an academic mood by which if we were in an academic environment we would take care to think as to deliver our thoughts without showing signs of irrelevancies and flippancies - that is a most enticing temptation afforded by the anonymity of the internet. So, may I request that we go into the work to think up what it is to prove that something exists in objective reality of existence outside of concepts in our mind, and independent of our mind? First, for myself, even to prove the existence of the nose in our face is difficult already, though everyone with a nose, that includes everyone here I dare presume, knows for a certainty that the nose exists in our face; still to think on how to prove it with concepts and words and statements made up of words and redact that all in clear concise and precise language, that is not a simple and quick act. Anyway, will you concur with me that in the case of things like the nose in our face, the best and most reliable proof consists in you and me touching each one our respective nose and then the nose of everyone else? At this point there will always be someone who insists that he is not sure he exists in objective reality of existence, much less his nose if any at all, how do we dare with him?
So, dear colleague LadyForCamus, it is the easiest thing to do in the world, saying no proof, no proof, no proof... but do you know what it is and how to prove something to exist in objective reality outside of concepts in our mind, and redact the proof in writing. step by step in clear simple concise and precise words?
