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Solved Theodicy?
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RE: Solved Theodicy?
(October 24, 2016 at 11:45 am)robvalue Wrote: Yeah. Precognition and free will are at odds, no matter how much the theist desparately tries to wriggle out of it. And beyond it all is the question of "why". Why do any of this? And if you're going to do it, why be so shit at it? "Plans" are for beings that don't know the future and are trying to plot the best path. "Goals" are for beings who aren't certain of what they will achieve.

They aren't at odds, not on the human level anyway. The past has real inertia and the present has real potential, the future is a branching of possible trajectories with some being much more likely than others. Human level precog is the ability to look down the trajectory of potentials. We actually do it all the time but some are much more practiced at it than others.

God level precog is unnecessary. If you are the border conditions, nothing can go beyond you, and you have set the course of creation...it does not matter what free agents do within the system. Like the participants of a race, God sets the course, the racers are free to do their best within the system provided.
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
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Solved Theodicy? - by _Velvet_ - October 24, 2016 at 9:46 am
RE: Solved Theodicy? - by robvalue - October 24, 2016 at 11:45 am
RE: Solved Theodicy? - by Arkilogue - October 29, 2016 at 2:56 pm
RE: Solved Theodicy? - by Soldat Du Christ - October 28, 2016 at 11:40 pm
RE: Solved Theodicy? - by vorlon13 - October 28, 2016 at 11:42 pm
RE: Solved Theodicy? - by robvalue - October 28, 2016 at 11:45 pm
RE: Solved Theodicy? - by Ravenshire - October 29, 2016 at 12:45 am
RE: Solved Theodicy? - by robvalue - October 29, 2016 at 3:58 am
RE: Solved Theodicy? - by Mudhammam - October 28, 2016 at 11:59 pm
RE: Solved Theodicy? - by Eugeny_Anatolievich - October 29, 2016 at 1:36 am
RE: Solved Theodicy? - by Minimalist - October 29, 2016 at 2:26 am
RE: Solved Theodicy? - by AFTT47 - October 29, 2016 at 9:53 am
RE: Solved Theodicy? - by Mudhammam - October 29, 2016 at 11:23 am
RE: Solved Theodicy? - by robvalue - October 29, 2016 at 1:16 pm
RE: Solved Theodicy? - by Mudhammam - October 29, 2016 at 9:22 pm
RE: Solved Theodicy? - by theologian - October 29, 2016 at 2:46 pm
RE: Solved Theodicy? - by Arkilogue - October 29, 2016 at 2:59 pm
RE: Solved Theodicy? - by theologian - October 29, 2016 at 10:22 pm
RE: Solved Theodicy? - by robvalue - October 29, 2016 at 4:27 pm
RE: Solved Theodicy? - by bennyboy - October 29, 2016 at 6:07 pm
RE: Solved Theodicy? - by AFTT47 - October 29, 2016 at 3:03 pm
RE: Solved Theodicy? - by Arkilogue - October 29, 2016 at 3:11 pm
RE: Solved Theodicy? - by Minimalist - October 29, 2016 at 6:17 pm
RE: Solved Theodicy? - by Minimalist - October 30, 2016 at 12:09 am
RE: Solved Theodicy? - by robvalue - October 30, 2016 at 3:44 am
RE: Solved Theodicy? - by theologian - November 3, 2016 at 3:16 am
RE: Solved Theodicy? - by robvalue - November 3, 2016 at 3:22 am
RE: Solved Theodicy? - by theologian - November 3, 2016 at 3:53 am
RE: Solved Theodicy? - by robvalue - November 3, 2016 at 4:29 am
RE: Solved Theodicy? - by theologian - November 5, 2016 at 6:52 pm

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