(October 30, 2016 at 11:51 am)Aroura Wrote:(October 30, 2016 at 11:18 am)Whateverist Wrote: Sorry, I'm coming into this conversation a little late. I'm not sure what you think she's done. Not grabbing women but their 'lapels' at least.
Who is it you support then?
I could be wrong, but it sounds like she means that most male politicians have done the same and even worse, yet when Hillary does it, those things are suddenly 10 times worse.
Personally, I have nothing to put aside to vote for her. She's a strong, capable woman. The emails were poor judgement, but NOT criminal. For her other "scandals", During war, bad shit happens. Hundreds of people died in similar circumstances under Bush, but 4 people die with her as SoS, and she's suddenly a war mongering monster. Also, changing your mind is not flip flopping. It's a damned good thing that politicians can change their minds when presented with new evidence, just like "regular people.
Her policies on taxes, immigration, and most social policies (including cost for college) align closely with Bernie Sanders. She proposes very green energy policies that are close to Jill Stein. Is she "saying anything" to gain power? I don't know, but I'd like to give her a chance to enact some of policies she has run on. She isn't perfect, but no human being is. And if people want an unblemished candidate, they are living in a pipe dream.
Point being, she isn't "just as bad" as Trump, she's actually a VERY GOOD candidate. A lot of people don't like her because she gets a lot of unwarrented bad publicity from the press (no matter what people think, she is raked over the coals in the press, until recently). I admire her tenacity, and willingness to change.
Every time I hear how she's just as bad, i'd like those people to stop reading click bait headlines, and do some research on their own. But I know that is a lot to ask of most people in this day and age of instant gratification.
Yeah, that's fair. I personally don't think as highly of her as you do, but I see she's "redeemable" at least and can be of great benefit for the American public, and as president of the US, for the world as well. And she's worked hard to get where she's at now. So let's give her a chance.