RE: The end of the world
June 7, 2011 at 12:35 am
(This post was last modified: June 7, 2011 at 12:59 am by Godscreated.)
(June 6, 2011 at 3:53 pm)Godschild Wrote: Wrong, doing as you suggest would only draw those like Camping to misuse the Bible more than it already is. I've no idea how old you are so I do not know when you attended school, I however was attending school when the Bible was an poen book of learning and prayer was led by teachers. Guess what there were no kids killing kids, kids killing teachers and principles, teachers and principles trying to harm each other ect., this has all come about since God was removed from our schools and the moral decay of American society is alarming. You see, I see no flaw in teaghing the scriptures in school, I never said we should teach only parts of scripture what I said we should not evangelize in schools.
Cinjin Cain Wrote:Your theory of violence in schools has all come about since God was removed doesn't really hold water. You know why? Because far too often the shooters and the abusers and the pedophiles end up having significant ties to Christianity. That's right. The one's that are either pulling the triggers, or pulling down little boys pants are often your sweet worshipers of jesus. If we want to progress, history has shown us - keep religion out of it.
Where do you get your facts that most of the school shooters are tied to christianity?
(June 6, 2011 at 5:39 pm)Zenith Wrote:(June 5, 2011 at 5:29 pm)Cinjin Cain Wrote: @ Zenith.
(June 6, 2011 at 11:28 am)Godschild Wrote: I think that DT is right in what he says, these people are looking to fulfill something in their livesI didn't read DT saying that...
Quote:something that they do not understand and will latch onto anything that appeals to them and then respond to almost anything that is said to them. As for Camping he used the Bible to gain the attention he desired so in reality he is the same as those who follow him. Now I'm not saying that the Bible is wrong or at fault in any way, it's what he chose to bring people to his level. Unfortunately the type he appeals to will follow without looking into what has been said, all they had to do is read the Bible and they would have seen how wrong he was and will be.Zenith Wrote:Well, most christians are interested in lots of things, but their bible is usually not one of them. They don't want a book, they want a preacher! A preacher to tell them what they want to hear, to make them live in a an atmosphere of supernatural, and stuff like that (and a book itself cannot do that). So even if they had been given the suggestion to read their bibles, 99% sure they wouldn't have done it.
I do not know where you get that from, most christians I know cherish their Bibles and read them often. Our pastor has always encouraged us to check him against the scriptures and you can bet it happens. You would be hard pressed to find gullible people in our church a great number of us have been teachers of the word.
Quote:This could very well be an argument for teaching scripture in our school systems and I'm not talking about trying to convert little children, just give them the basics of what the Bible teaches such as no one will know the day or hour in which Christ will return, nothing has to be taught as fact that He will return.
I would be against Islam being taught in schools or any other religion, they have never proved there effectiveness as a religion and I know from being part of a generation that was raised with the Bible and prayer in school that violence and other immoral things were not a part of our lives as it is with todays generation.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
