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Agnostic Skepticism- My Views
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RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views
(November 14, 2016 at 2:12 pm)robvalue Wrote: Sure he is, but he still makes more sense than most theists. I don't know how many of them have actually given me a coherent definition. I can't think of any right now, although there has probably been a couple.

I think God as a deity that was the creator of the universe is a coherent definition. And I think that's the standard definition. This is why I am not ignostic/theological non-cognitivist, I think the standard definition of God works fine... I think it's when the claimant(s) doesn't distinguish between reality and existence and the universe, and when they claim that God is outside of nature, space and time as well as having created the universe.... it's when they start saying that stuff that it becomes incoherent. Until they give those details it's just a claim about something extremely complex being at the beginning.... which is extremely improbable. And the fine-tuning argument bullshit is dealt with easily by the anthropic principle. God Himself ™ would have to be even more fine-tuned, etc, etc.
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Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by RiddledWithFear - November 13, 2016 at 4:04 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by robvalue - November 13, 2016 at 4:07 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by RiddledWithFear - November 13, 2016 at 4:13 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by robvalue - November 13, 2016 at 4:15 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by RiddledWithFear - November 13, 2016 at 4:33 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by robvalue - November 13, 2016 at 4:19 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by RiddledWithFear - November 13, 2016 at 4:42 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by robvalue - November 13, 2016 at 4:47 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by RiddledWithFear - November 13, 2016 at 4:53 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by robvalue - November 13, 2016 at 4:59 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by RiddledWithFear - November 13, 2016 at 5:05 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by The Grand Nudger - November 13, 2016 at 4:54 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by RiddledWithFear - November 13, 2016 at 5:01 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by robvalue - November 13, 2016 at 4:55 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by robvalue - November 13, 2016 at 5:01 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by robvalue - November 13, 2016 at 5:02 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by RiddledWithFear - November 13, 2016 at 5:07 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by The Grand Nudger - November 13, 2016 at 5:10 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by RiddledWithFear - November 13, 2016 at 5:20 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by robvalue - November 13, 2016 at 5:11 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by robvalue - November 13, 2016 at 5:15 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by RiddledWithFear - November 13, 2016 at 5:27 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by Expired - November 13, 2016 at 5:17 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by robvalue - November 13, 2016 at 5:21 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by RiddledWithFear - November 13, 2016 at 5:25 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by robvalue - November 13, 2016 at 5:28 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 5:25 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by RiddledWithFear - November 13, 2016 at 5:29 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 5:43 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by RiddledWithFear - November 13, 2016 at 5:45 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by robvalue - November 13, 2016 at 5:47 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by RiddledWithFear - November 13, 2016 at 5:51 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by robvalue - November 13, 2016 at 5:31 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by The Grand Nudger - November 13, 2016 at 5:31 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by robvalue - November 13, 2016 at 5:33 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by RiddledWithFear - November 13, 2016 at 5:35 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by robvalue - November 13, 2016 at 5:39 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by RiddledWithFear - November 13, 2016 at 5:43 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 5:45 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by RiddledWithFear - November 13, 2016 at 5:46 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by Jesster - November 13, 2016 at 5:45 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by robvalue - November 13, 2016 at 5:45 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by Jesster - November 13, 2016 at 5:47 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by robvalue - November 13, 2016 at 5:49 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by robvalue - November 13, 2016 at 5:52 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by brewer - November 13, 2016 at 8:31 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by RiddledWithFear - November 13, 2016 at 2:49 pm
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by brewer - November 13, 2016 at 2:54 pm
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by bennyboy - November 13, 2016 at 9:17 pm
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by RiddledWithFear - November 13, 2016 at 9:24 pm
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by robvalue - November 14, 2016 at 2:43 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by Whateverist - November 14, 2016 at 2:16 pm
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by Edwardo Piet - November 14, 2016 at 2:37 pm
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by Whateverist - November 14, 2016 at 3:21 pm
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by Cyberman - November 14, 2016 at 4:14 pm
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by robvalue - November 14, 2016 at 4:46 pm
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by robvalue - November 14, 2016 at 3:06 pm
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by Whateverist - November 14, 2016 at 3:23 pm
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by RiddledWithFear - November 14, 2016 at 5:29 pm
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by bennyboy - November 14, 2016 at 8:05 pm
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by RiddledWithFear - November 14, 2016 at 8:16 pm
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by Edwardo Piet - November 14, 2016 at 8:43 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by robvalue - November 14, 2016 at 10:05 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by The Grand Nudger - November 14, 2016 at 11:22 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by robvalue - November 14, 2016 at 2:12 pm
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by Edwardo Piet - November 14, 2016 at 2:33 pm
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by Edwardo Piet - November 14, 2016 at 2:39 pm
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by Edwardo Piet - November 14, 2016 at 3:59 pm
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by Edwardo Piet - November 14, 2016 at 4:18 pm
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by Whateverist - November 15, 2016 at 8:22 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by Asmodee - November 14, 2016 at 5:48 pm
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by robvalue - November 15, 2016 at 4:50 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by robvalue - November 15, 2016 at 5:41 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by Edwardo Piet - November 15, 2016 at 9:27 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by Asmodee - November 15, 2016 at 11:16 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2016 at 5:05 am
RE: Agnostic Skepticism- My Views - by bennyboy - November 17, 2016 at 6:25 pm

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