If there is a creator, so what?

[The Grand Nudger]

It would be ugly, lol.  Thing is, that's just not what I took from it.  I learned the arguments -and- their objections as a matter of course.  I got lucky, in that jesuit institutions are notoriously liberal and a little bit more intellectual than the common fare.  They're the "progressive" wing of the RCC, if it can be said to have such a wing. The current pope, for example, a jesuit, the first jesuit pope, no less.  So you can see where that sort of thing leads.  To the notions, for example, that maybe... just maybe, catholics ought to stop hatin on the gays.  That arguing against evolution is pointless and god was no magician.  A personal favorite of mine, and -exceedingly- jesuit thing to say...that atheists can get into heaven by doing good work.  All the faith, all the arguments...not necessary, do work. That's the jesuit ethos.

The people we get here are an embarrassment to that, frankly.  They're regressives even -within- their own screwed up little fiefdom. Igno here is positively -butchering- while simultaneously trying to sell an 800 year old meditation on god. Telling people that they'rte not full and whole, somehow, because they don't have jesus? Put down the pipe, leave the theology and fishing of men to someone better qualified, and go do some work. It would be better for the apologist, it would be better for the people he;s trying to bullshit, it would be better for the church, it would be better for the world.