(November 21, 2016 at 12:19 pm)Tonus Wrote:(November 21, 2016 at 9:18 am)Little Rik Wrote: You were saying time and time again that this universe is full of imperfection and if a perfect God creates such an imperfect universe then there is no God or you consider other possibilities including the one where he doesn't exist...
I did not say that this universe is "full of imperfection." I pointed out that a universe where people suffer unnecessarily and justice arrives too late to prevent it either does not have a god, or it has one that sucks. You have tried to explain why this state of affairs is either necessary or preferable to one where god prevents such suffering and injustice from happening in the first place. I have pointed out that it's a stupid explanation.
I wasn't complaining that you had dropped the discussion. I just didn't think it was possible for you to do so.
Ton.
1) You came at the conclusion that ..........people suffer unnecessarily............
There is no evidence that that is the case.
You do not know what these people did in previous lives therefore you should not come to such a conclusion.
Where is your evidence that people suffer unnecessary?
2) And then you say.............justice arrives too late to prevent (the suffering) ..........
If there would not be suffering there also would not be the karma and without karma there would not be any justice so your logic does not take in consideration the karma law but karma is there as confirmed by so many NDEs experiences.
Ton I just hope that you do not believe in science because also science tell us that every action require and equal and opposite reaction.
You never thought of that Ton, did you?